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Originally posted by C'monchargers
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In that case we need a bonifide offense that can beat the best of them. To be quite honest, it is hard for me to say bad thing against Herbert these days since he became a Charger. That whole Hurts vs. Herbert convo is beat to dead and i rather not. But one thing can't go without mention is that Hurts and Herbert came in under very circumstances. One was a second round pick that people to this day still has doubt about, one is a high first round typical franchise pick. Hurts has improved so much since he got drafted, his footwork, his throwing motion is more quite, upper body rotation. Dude can throw on the run just as well as in the pocket. On the other hand, the most noticible imporvement happens from college to pro; other than that his footwork hasn't improved to that pro level. For a QB with his playing style, it probably be best for him to be able to shuffle and set his base.
Say what you want about him running like a drunk fret boy, Tom Brady can shuffle and move dropping back. See 00:31 in the video.
Also, one of the knock I remember of Brett Favre early career especially the falcons years, is that he didn't have the touch for dump offs. He threw heat and WR in atlanta couldn't handle it, but he couldn't complete a simple high RPM, high lobber to catch the RB on the run. Later in GB, you start to see the higher RPM and slower but higher, quicker release throws that spins out quick to give defense very little time to react.
IMO Brett Favre learnt as he gets more seasoned the importance of how he delivers the ball, most noticibly imo the way he emphasize the spin, the RPM more and use it to control the flight on those lobbing screen dump offs and throw towering high long ball that fly stable with big spins on it seemingly dropping out of the sky. Those short side arm thing that Hebert does, i can trade that for a nice little lob for at least half the time.
Would love to see Herbert think more about touch since he already got the fast ball and placement down pretty well.
Lastly, I do think about sometimes, are the Chargers falling into that mindset that Herbert is proven and that they only had to built around him to be successful? Maybe perhaps are they a little complacent with Herbert's improvement so far? Herbert is beyond potential, he had done it he is very very talented; but it almost seems like he is going this far by talent right now. I see the fast ball and the placement, but I also see that he can't throw it any slower because defense that is ball watching knows its coming. Acho called Herbert a "Social Media QB", that was very harsh. I think what he meant probably was that Herbert's throwing motion is very choreographed. He has that classic javelin throwing motion that take it way back and whips it forward. Very linear, very big, Very Jeff George. Big motion gives tales, especially to good safeties and zone guys. Also, with the big motion, his off the script quick things are not his strength.
The fastball and placement was his bread and butter coming out and we got it, but to me I would like to see a nice dipping sinker, a big curve ball, the change up. Afterall, his arm suppose to be the thing that is his strength, so don't you want to see that arm has the whole repertoire?
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