2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[wu-dai clan]

Odunze-Kneeland?

Kneeland is a fine prospect.

No more Power Gap Paradise.

I see your Odunze-Kneeland...
and raise to Turner-McConkey.

[Critty]

Lol, you pick out one dramatic play, as if one play actually means something. Can you name a RT that was never beat once?

But headstrong and full of fury, gosh darn you’re gonna prove Pipkins is the worst player on the team. And io do that, you selected a play where Slater got beat for a somewhat rare (for him) sack? Thats fucking awesome!

You pull out your cherry pick stat that he had no sacks vs LV And I went to game film to describe how 1 of 3 sacks in that exact game you cherry picked result in opponent scoop score for TD was a Pipkins disaster snap.
At least my cherry was picked from game film and not a stat sheet.

p.s. every play means something and one play in a NFL game could mean a lot. Especially a turnover scoop score.

[21&500]

FWIW, Allen said he's only interested in playing here and if not, he could take the regular-season off and join a contender.
we could be that contender.

[charger1_sj]

Who cares? How have YOU determined that Nabers is a better prospect than Alt? You're basing your opinion on what someone else wrote over what you've watched--if you have even watched Nabers and Alt play?



I have no idea what you are talking about. The best right tackles in the NFL right now were all drafted in the first round. Penei Sewell is probably the best right tackle in the NFL currently. If not, it's Lane Johnson. They were both selected in the top seven. Wirfs was in the conversation before he moved to left tackle. The three right tackles you picked out are not nearly as impressive. And where in my post did I say we need All-Pros at all positions?

My post proves that the majority of the All-Pro right tackles were selected in the first round. There are many more outstanding wide receivers and tight ends who were drafted after the first round. Is it possible we can get a good or outstanding right tackle after the first round? Yes. Has recent history shown it's as likely to get one after the first round as it is to find a good-to-great receiver or tight end later than the first round? Absolutely not.



You said we know there are at least three good-to-great receivers who will be picked in the top ten. No we don't. I have a great feeling that Harrison will be great. He will probably and should be gone before we pick. I think Odunze will be very good. I have my doubts about Nabers.

How do you determine Alt is better than Nabors when they play very different positions? I'm looking at the impact both would have on our team. If Allen is
there the combo of him and Nabors means nobody is going to stack the box. Which means running the ball just got easier. If Allen isn't here we would desperately
need a WR. While Alt will improve the RT position, he's not going to have the impact that Nabors would have. And if you want to run the football you better
get OGs, a Center and RB. One ROT is not going to fix the run game. And I'm sorry if you want a RT that can stop elite pass rushers then more than likely
that guy is going to need help. That's just the way it is. Elite edge guys are called that for a reason.

The best QBs are taking in round 1. The best CBs are taking in round 1. The best Edge guys are taken in round 1. Yeck even the best OG are sometime taken
in round 1. All that proves is that the best players are taken in round 1. LIke we didn't know that.

No I said there are 3 good to great receivers in this draft. Nobody knows when they will be taken because that depends on team needs and how GMs fix up
there boards. But I'll bet all three go in round 1. And guess what I bet the three top OT will go in round 1. I mean WTF.

[Bolt4Knob]

FWIW, Allen said he's only interested in playing here and if not, he could take the regular-season off and join a contender.
we could be that contender.

I think Allen gets a deal done. On par with Mike Evans - maybe slightly less - but around those numbers. But who knows - maybe it will be like Armstead with the Niners - they wanted him at one number, Armstead wanted a number and the two sides parted ways.

[Boltinloudguy]

Kneeland is a fine prospect.

No more Power Gap Paradise.

I see your Odunze-Kneeland...
and raise to Turner-McConkey.

If Keenan is gone, I’m in the Odunze-Kneeland boat. Simply because I think Odunze is the best all around WR in the draft. I’m over the MHJ hype.

[Boltnut]

How do you determine Alt is better than Nabors when they play very different positions?
Very true. And the opposite can also be said.

I'm looking at the impact both would have on our team. If Allen is there the combo of him and Nabors means nobody is going to stack the box. Which means running the ball just got easier.
Partly true... partly false. The coaches believe that the run game will have a bigger impact... in that the running game will help the passing game. If you don't like the message, don't kill the messengers.

If Allen isn't here we would desperately need a WR.
If Allen is here, they don't desperately need a WR. Allen is better than any WR Harbaugh/Hortiz have ever had. The WR's @Michigan were good... not elite. They won a National Championship that way. Balanced offense. Strong defense. Take your beef to management.

While Alt will improve the RT position, he's not going to have the impact that Nabors would have. And if you want to run the football you better get OGs, a Center and RB. One ROT is not going to fix the run game.
Nobody has ever claimed that better play from the IOL players is not needed. More experience and better coaching will help. If the OG's continue to play poorly, they will eventually need to be replaced. It's cool if you apply that optimism to Pipkins... but I'm skeptical. He's had plenty of time and coaching to get better. He even went to Duke Mannyweather's camp. I haven't seen the returns.

If Harbaugh/Roman/Devlin believe they can fix Pipkins... so be it. I just want it fixed.
In the end, a trade-back is the best scenario IMO. 3 starters v 1 starter will always make your team better.
Football is a team sport. The networks like to package the game as a game of super stars. But it's much more than that.

[21&500]

If Keenan is gone, I’m in the Odunze-Kneeland boat. Simply because I think Odunze is the best all around WR in the draft. I’m over the MHJ hype.

Both are future number 1s.
but ya at this point Rome has made a compelling case for himself. I wouldn't question Rome even at 5.

[Fouts2herbert]

Both are future number 1s.
but ya at this point Rome has made a compelling case for himself. I wouldn't question Rome even at 5.

at this point not trading out of 5 would be a bit questionable...can't think of a better trade down scenario presenting itself in the last 20 years...

[jamrock]

at this point not trading out of 5 would be a bit questionable...can't think of a better trade down scenario presenting itself in the last 20 years...

Somebody has to offer to move up. It's not a unilateral decision

[charger1_sj]

If Harbaugh/Roman/Devlin believe they can fix Pipkins... so be it. I just want it fixed.
In the end, a trade-back is the best scenario IMO. 3 starters v 1 starter will always make your team better.
Football is a team sport. The networks like to package the game as a game of super stars. But it's much more than that.

I don't know what the Chargers will do. As already mentioned it takes 2 to tangle. My opinion is that a trade back is certainly
possible. But pending FA I would stick with MH2 or Nabors @ 5 if there. Of course that doesn't mean shit. Some reports indicate
that the Chargers will blow it up and get rid of all 4 of the big cap hits. If so then trading back would be the best option as we would
have created even more holes than we currently have.

[beachcomber]

looking over past drafts, do think it much more likely to dredge out talent @the skill positions in later rounds, as opposed to bonafide difference making linemen....

RB Keilian Robinson, Daijun Edwards, Jaylen Wright, Jonathan Brooks
WR Luke McCaffrey
TE Tip Reiman, Ben Sinnott

well, so much for that theory, as guess I don't see so many good gets for day two/three....

OC Sedrick Van Pran Granger
OG Trente Jones, Zak Zinter
OT Tylan Grable

DT Gabe Hall