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Originally posted by Formula 21 View PostSigning Edwards and Dissly opens up a 3rd and a 5th for other prospect/positions in the draft. Let's fill those big holes one by one and move on to a winning season.
Gus Bus.
Diss.
Alohi and O'Leary Notre Dame connection.We do not play modern football.
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Originally posted by Boltnut View Post
Protect the QB can come from any OL position we choose... could be IOL or OT.
A new center will have to happen. OG's play will have to improve. If a mid/late round OG does that... get it done.
But saying that the IOL sucked more does not excuse Pipkins from his history of suck-iness.
If you want to improve the stank @RT... it most likely will be done in the 1st round.
If you want to improve the stank @IOL (specifically OC) it most likely will be done in the 2nd round.
If you want to improve the stank @OG... it will most likely be done with a mid/late rounder.
They could move Salyer to RT... I've been suggesting that for two years (before the Pip re-sign).
But as many have pointed out... he has no NFL experience there... just as he had no NFL experience @RG (w/questionable results).
IMO, it is far less risky to let Salyer stay @RG and get more experience.
IMO, it is far less risky to leave Zion @LG... his natural position.
Both of these guys have 1 NFL year of experience @those positions.
We've seen Pipkins @RT for 5 years now.
You're satisfied with Pipkins' 5 years (3 of which he couldn't even break the starting lineup) but are unsatisfied that both OG's could improve at their respective positions in 2nd years...?
That's just a very weird stance to take.Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
The Wasted Decade is done.
Build Back Better.
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Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
Probably could get Verse or Latu in the 9-11 range.
Turner is probably one but Latu isn't if he wants to drop them in coverage. Hard to tell right now.
Wasn't Uche a 3rd rounder?
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With Cousins to ATL, I like MINN as a trade down partner: they will want to draft a QB if they can, I’ll take their first, second, a fourth and a fifth please (they have two picks each in rounds four, five and six, easy trade for them and a nice haul for us).
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Originally posted by Formula 21 View PostIMO, losing Bosa and Mack pretty much says we are drafting Dallas Turner at #5. We can't go into the season with one just pass rusher, who is a solid but not a premium pass rusher by the way. And premium pass rushers are hard guys to find, much harder than ORT or WR.1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
2b- #37 Jenkins DT
3a- #66 Puni OT
3b- #69 Sainristill CB
4a- #105 Rice WR
4b- #110 Lloyd RB
5- #140 Green CB
6- #181 Nourzad C/OG
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Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
Not necessarily true. There are some really good edge rushers that will be available in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rnds as well as the 2nd. I think this needs to be said again, Harbaugh and Minter won a Championship with a bunch of 3 star recruits on the team. They will find a DE whether it be in FAcy or the draft. They will be fine.
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
Dude. you stop it. you blamed Pipkins for Slater giving up a sack and you're nitpicking me about facts?
I didn't cherry pick Crosby and I simply went to their last game, i didn't cherry pick that game either. Pipkins didn't give up a sack to LVR in either 2023 game so any association with Maxx Crosby's brutal rushing against LAC was about someone other than Pipkins.
I do apologize that I didn't notice you were jumping in with the other harpies around here that insist factual data is not to be believed. Maybe you guys want to talk about a different Edge rusher / Team that actually did get a sack against Pipkins?
cherry pickin' ... ha!
I lose for wasting my time posting at you. Have good night.
Go Chargers!
Who has it better than us?
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Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post
Not necessarily true. There are some really good edge rushers that will be available in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rnds as well as the 2nd. I think this needs to be said again, Harbaugh and Minter won a Championship with a bunch of 3 star recruits on the team. They will find a DE whether it be in FAcy or the draft. They will be fine.
there is zero respect for the importance of elite edge rushers in this forum anymore. now a 5th rd edge rusher prospect is a great plan, oh my. Do you think that Minter has some super secret magic pass rush trick never considered before? He doesn't. Blitzing LBs and dropping DEs, yeah thats done in NFL. Corner or Safety blitz, yeah that too. Minter is not going to revolutionize football and turn a bunch of jags into the greatest sack machine on earth.
In the end the game will still be played hat on hat and pad on pad and 5th rd scrub edge rushers are not going to beat 1st rd OTs very often. It is why elite edge rushers are paid north of $25M APY now. Its a very rare pearl found deep in the 5th round ocean because 95% of them will never do shit.
we're betting on magic pearl divers now. great.
IF they are getting rid of both Mack and Bosa - Edge Rusher by Rd2 is a must.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post
Expecting a 5th rd pick can be as good as two guys rated best edge rusher in their respective drafts and taken in the Top 5 of Rd1 is very wishful optimism.
there is zero respect for the importance of elite edge rushers in this forum anymore. now a 5th rd edge rusher prospect is a great plan, oh my. Do you think that Minter has some super secret magic pass rush trick never considered before? He doesn't. Blitzing LBs and dropping DEs, yeah thats done in NFL. Corner or Safety blitz, yeah that too. Minter is not going to revolutionize football and turn a bunch of jags into the greatest sack machine on earth.
In the end the game will still be played hat on hat and pad on pad and 5th rd scrub edge rushers are not going to beat 1st rd OTs very often. It is why elite edge rushers are paid north of $25M APY now. Its a very rare pearl found deep in the 5th round ocean because 95% of them will never do shit.
we're betting on magic pearl divers now. great.
IF they are getting rid of both Mack and Bosa - Edge Rusher by Rd2 is a must.1- #11 Bowers TE 7a- #225 Boyd DT
2a- #35 Cooper LB 7b- #253 Vidal RB
2b- #37 Jenkins DT
3a- #66 Puni OT
3b- #69 Sainristill CB
4a- #105 Rice WR
4b- #110 Lloyd RB
5- #140 Green CB
6- #181 Nourzad C/OG
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