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  • Topcat
    AKA "Pollcat"
    • Jan 2019
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    Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

    What if you get a Julio Jones offer?
    2 1st rounders
    1 2nd rounder
    2 4th rounders
    I'm at least listening...
    22 - TE Mason Taylor
    55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
    86 - DL Josiah Stewart
    125 - G Dylan Fairchild
    158 - C Jake Majors
    181 - WR Donte Thornton

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    • Topcat
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      Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post
      Let me explain it yall? Any of yall play baseball in here? Or have played baseball?

      going from left tackle to right tackle when you played left tackle your whole career. Is like having to bat right handed when you batted left handed your whole career.
      No wonder Salyer did so well at LT, his natural position, then not so good at RG...not his fault...
      22 - TE Mason Taylor
      55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
      86 - DL Josiah Stewart
      125 - G Dylan Fairchild
      158 - C Jake Majors
      181 - WR Donte Thornton

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      • Jack Burton
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        • Apr 2023
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        Originally posted by 21&500 View Post

        Best case scenario is having dominating bookend tackles but speaking for only myself, from our vantage point there are too many unknowns we are not privy to, to confidently advocate for Alt over other high floor weapons who are also PONs.

        As far as the "lacl of mauling" I don't care.
        I think it's physically more impressive to play under control without "mauling". I realize that's not exactly the same thing, but I've noticed that a lot of times when players are described as "maulers" that is sometimes confused with erratic and.over exertion.

        If we draft Alt, I'll assume there is a solid plan and every risk has been vetted.

        We also gotta keep in mind that Slater has a say in this. His agent might not appreciate the idea of him moving to RT. There’s a lot more to it than just guys moving from one position to another. There’s money. They are currently working on his extension. Everything has to be taken into consideration.
        And there are numerous really good RTs in this draft that are plug and play ready day 1.

        The ideal situation is LAC getting the trade down and getting 11 and 27 cause it opens up much more options to resolve both a weapon on offense and an OT.

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        • Bolt4Knob
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          • Dec 2019
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          Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

          What if you get a Julio Jones offer?
          2 1st rounders
          1 2nd rounder
          2 4th rounders
          I would listen to that. Problem is Atlanta was in the 20's so Cleveland dropped a long way

          But I would listen

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          • Topcat
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            • Jan 2019
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            Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post
            I don’t like the Andrew Thomas comparison. I hope Joe Alt is not Andrew Thomas.

            More and More I’d Like Romeo Oudunzie and I’d take Romeo Oudunzie over Malike Nabers. I think Marvin Harrison Jr. and Romeo Oudunzie are 1 and 1A .
            Okay, Alt on tape looks solid most of the time. But...I do have a concern about Alt's ability to stay with speedy Edge rushers. For example, on this game, here's Alt's initial punch:

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            Edge disengages, then Alt steers him far enough to keep him away from the QB. On this play, no problem, but if the interior pressure would have pushed the QB further away from the pocket, that could be an issue. My concern is Alt's footwork vs. speedy edges.

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            Here it is again. Alt beat to the outside, steers, no problem because QB stays in the pocket. But ask yourself, will that pocket be so clean with the likes of Chris Jones pushing it?

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            On this play, Alt has his man blocked out on a run play:

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            But then, Alt gets rag-dolled to the ground:

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            Okay, so it was a run play and the run wasn't affected here. Still, you hate to invest a top pick in someone who gets outmuscled liked this. And this was a "highlight" film. Okay, I realize I'm not going to win a popularity contest here, but I have my doubts about how well Alt will hold up vs. someone like Maxx.

            22 - TE Mason Taylor
            55 - RB Quinshon Judkins
            86 - DL Josiah Stewart
            125 - G Dylan Fairchild
            158 - C Jake Majors
            181 - WR Donte Thornton

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            • Critty
              Dominate the Day.
              • Mar 2019
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              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

              Yes there is a lot of opinion on the OTs.
              I am still frantically looking at midrounders friend.
              At the Combine, looking ordinary at ORT is not a concern IMV.
              Fuaga and especially Fautanu looked a lot better.
              Duke said Alt would ostensibly adapt and be fine at ORT.
              Then all my doubts evaporated.
              I am not sure people realize the amount of controlled power this man is capable of generating.
              My guess is that appearances are deceiving.
              You will be marked down for no go on Alt.
              Cool.
              Mauler is overrated. Fluker was a Mauler. I once saw him Maul his own RB, I guess to help him but knock the ball out for a fumble. Slater the best OL on team doesn't maul anyone. He is just very good at blocking.
              Alt is very good at blocking too. He can play either OT spot and play it well. The roster and coaches trend toward 22 personnel, I think WRs being able to block matters as much as catching it for their board rankings, so Nabers ranks 3rd for Hortiz and Harbaugh.
              Who has it better than us?

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              • Boltinloudguy
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                • Nov 2021
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                Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                What if you get a Julio Jones offer?
                2 1st rounders
                1 2nd rounder
                2 4th rounders
                A team to watch that needs a WR that might make that jump is Jacksonville at 17. I’m asking for 17, their 2nd this year and their 1st and 2nd next year.

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                • Xenos
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                  • Feb 2019
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                  Originally posted by Chargers8491 View Post

                  I'm fairly certain if MHJ is there and Viking trade up with the Cards to get a QB, the Cards will likely try and trade up with the Chargers to get MHJ. If the Cards are serious about going all in with Murray as their QB they need to give him some weapons.
                  The Chargers aren’t trading with the Cards if MHJ falls to them.

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                  • wu-dai clan
                    Smooth Operation
                    • May 2017
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                    Originally posted by Critty View Post

                    Mauler is overrated. Fluker was a Mauler. I once saw him Maul his own RB, I guess to help him but knock the ball out for a fumble. Slater the best OL on team doesn't maul anyone. He is just very good at blocking.
                    Alt is very good at blocking too. He can play either OT spot and play it well. The roster and coaches trend toward 22 personnel, I think WRs being able to block matters as much as catching it for their board rankings, so Nabers ranks 3rd for Hortiz and Harbaugh.
                    Yep. In watching and worshipping Alt,
                    I saw holes so big
                    Audric Estime could fit his fat ass through them untouched.
                    We play modern Harball.

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                    • Jack Burton
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                      • Apr 2023
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                      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                      I'm at least listening...
                      AZ offers you 11-27-66-90 for 5.
                      2 1’s and 2 3’s in this draft. Remember AZ has 3 3rds and they still have 23 in the 1st plus 35 in the 2nd. They are flush with picks.

                      LAC then trade 27 to WASH for 36-40
                      LAC now have,
                      11
                      36
                      37
                      40
                      66
                      69
                      90
                      105
                      110
                      9 picks in the top 110

                      Just take those picks and do a mock with those and tell me if you can’t rebuild this team in 9 picks.
                      Trade up with a 3rd to 8 or 9 and get your offensive weapon. ATL and CHI both are taking defensive players and there’s a good chance the player they want will be at 11 anyways..

                      9(CHI 66) BROCK BOWERS TE GEORGIA
                      36 KINGSLEY SUAMATAIA RT BYU
                      37 BRADEN FISKE DT FL ST
                      40 CAM HART CB NOTRE DAME
                      69 JA’LYNN POLK WR WASH
                      90 JUNIOR COLSON LB MICH
                      105 MARSHAWN LLOYD RB USC
                      110 HUNTER NOURZAD C PENN ST



                      AZ would have without anymore trades,
                      5
                      23
                      35
                      71
                      104
                      108

                      They could trade down with 23 and get more ammo. CAR, HOU and PHIL all have 2 2nds..
                      CAR has no 1st this year….

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                      • Boltjolt
                        Dont let the PBs fool ya
                        • Jun 2013
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                        Originally posted by Jack Burton View Post

                        What if you get a Julio Jones offer?
                        2 1st rounders
                        1 2nd rounder
                        2 4th rounders
                        They only have one 4th .....three 3rds.
                        1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                        2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                        3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
                        ✓
                        4. CJ West DT Indiana
                        5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                        6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                        6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                        6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                        6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                        7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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                        • Boltjolt
                          Dont let the PBs fool ya
                          • Jun 2013
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                          Originally posted by SAY OW 55 View Post
                          Let me explain it yall? Any of yall play baseball in here? Or have played baseball?

                          going from left tackle to right tackle when you played left tackle your whole career. Is like having to bat right handed when you batted left handed your whole career.
                          I don't think it compares. There are only around 25 switch hitters in the whole MLB with less than 1 per team while OL play multiple missions all the time.

                          1. Mason Taylor TE LSU
                          2. Quinshon Judkins RB Ohio st
                          3. Kyle Kennard Edge So. Carolina
                          ✓
                          4. CJ West DT Indiana
                          5. Don'te Thornton WR Tennessee
                          6. Zah Frazier CB UTSA
                          6. Jarquez Hunter RB Auburn
                          6. Jay Higgins LB Iowa
                          6. Hunter Wohler S Wisconsin
                          7. Carson Vinson OT Alabama

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