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  • SYB
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    Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

    And Okung is free. No draft pick required to sign him.
    What does that have to do with how much he's making, aka "market", which is what's being discussed here? :thinking:

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    • Formula 21
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      Originally posted by SYB View Post

      What does that have to do with how much he's making, aka "market", which is what's being discussed here? :thinking:
      Its part of the total compensation package for a player If you have to give up a draft pick for him, you have to pay him less. If he want to make more, let him buy his way out of his current contract.
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      The Wasted Decade is done.
      Build Back Better.

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      • SYB
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        Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

        Its part of the total compensation package for a player If you have to give up a draft pick for him, you have to pay him less. If he want to make more, let him buy his way out of his current contract.
        Please give me an example of a player of Trent's stature redoing his current contract for less money in order to facilitate a trade.

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        • Formula 21
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          Originally posted by SYB View Post

          Please give me an example of a player of Trent's stature redoing his current contract for less money in order to facilitate a trade.
          Gordon took less money to leave the Bolts. Did Pouncy take less money with the Bolts than he wanted from Miami? Did Brady take less money to leave the Pats? You don’t always get what you want.
          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
          The Wasted Decade is done.
          Build Back Better.

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          • Fleet
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            Two days and counting; buzz building … Just two days to go until the picks start coming off the board at the 2020 draft and while this year’s pre-draft period has been unusually quiet, in part because of the unique circumstances of the day, it appears that there may be a lot of teams chatting about possible moves in Thursday’s opening round. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, for example, is reporting this morning that Washington has been receiving calls from other teams about trading up for the #2 pick, although its unlikely the Redskins are all that interested with the chance to take Ohio State DE Chase Young at that spot. And if they were, the price would be pretty high. It also appears that there could be a lot going down at the bottom half of the top ten. In particular, there are as many as a half dozen teams outside the top ten, including the Jets, Las Vegas, Denver and Philadelphia which would reportedly like to move up and get one of the top WRs such as Oklahoma’s CeeDee Lamb and Alabama’s Jerry Jeudy. There are also at least a couple of teams that are considering moving up into the top ten with an eye on rising Florida CB C.J. Henderson. However, while there are reportedly a lot of teams talking, nobody really expects anything to happen until the draft gets underway. One team that does appear to have some interest in trading out of the top ten is Cleveland with the tenth pick overall as the Browns are looking for a LT and figure they could still get one 5-10 picks farther on down the board. One name that is increasingly associated with the Browns pick is Boise State LT Ezra Cleveland, who if he is chosen by the Browns would be the first player named Cleveland to play for Cleveland! There are also reports that San Francisco would be willing to trade down from both their opening round picks. The 49ers currently hold both the 13th pick, acquired from Indianapolis, and the 31st selection at the bottom of the opening round.

            Meanwhile, while both the Lions and Giants, who pick 3rd and 4th respectively, would like to move a couple of spots, it doesn’t appear they are getting much interest from either Miami or the LA Chargers, who sit on picks #5 and #6 respectively and are both reportedly interested in QBs, or teams like Jacksonville or Las Vegas a little farther on down. There has even been a little speculation in some media circles that the Dolphins and Chargers have been quietly colluding about their intentions, but that of course would be against the rules and in violation of the spirit of the draft and no team would ever think of doing such!

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            • Lone Bolt
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              Originally posted by Fleet View Post
              Two days and counting; buzz building … Just two days to go until the picks start coming off the board at the 2020 draft and while this year’s pre-draft period has been unusually quiet, in part because of the unique circumstances of the day, it appears that there may be a lot of teams chatting about possible moves in Thursday’s opening round. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media, for example, is reporting this morning that Washington has been receiving calls from other teams about trading up for the #2 pick, although its unlikely the Redskins are all that interested with the chance to take Ohio State DE Chase Young at that spot. And if they were, the price would be pretty high. It also appears that there could be a lot going down at the bottom half of the top ten. In particular, there are as many as a half dozen teams outside the top ten, including the Jets, Las Vegas, Denver and Philadelphia which would reportedly like to move up and get one of the top WRs such as Oklahoma’s CeeDee Lamb and Alabama’s Jerry Jeudy. There are also at least a couple of teams that are considering moving up into the top ten with an eye on rising Florida CB C.J. Henderson. However, while there are reportedly a lot of teams talking, nobody really expects anything to happen until the draft gets underway. One team that does appear to have some interest in trading out of the top ten is Cleveland with the tenth pick overall as the Browns are looking for a LT and figure they could still get one 5-10 picks farther on down the board. One name that is increasingly associated with the Browns pick is Boise State LT Ezra Cleveland, who if he is chosen by the Browns would be the first player named Cleveland to play for Cleveland! There are also reports that San Francisco would be willing to trade down from both their opening round picks. The 49ers currently hold both the 13th pick, acquired from Indianapolis, and the 31st selection at the bottom of the opening round.

              Meanwhile, while both the Lions and Giants, who pick 3rd and 4th respectively, would like to move a couple of spots, it doesn’t appear they are getting much interest from either Miami or the LA Chargers, who sit on picks #5 and #6 respectively and are both reportedly interested in QBs, or teams like Jacksonville or Las Vegas a little farther on down. There has even been a little speculation in some media circles that the Dolphins and Chargers have been quietly colluding about their intentions, but that of course would be against the rules and in violation of the spirit of the draft and no team would ever think of doing such!
              I would think it hilarious if the Fins and Bolts were colluding...I think I posted in another thread that they should get together and not let the Skins, Lions, or Giants rape them in a bidding war.
              If Miami wants Tua, and is willing to outbid the Bolts no matter what, why fuck over the fins by driving up the price that we could never match anyway, and letting Detroit or NY get rich? I don't like either one of those franchises....

              Now, if we were doing the hijacking...I would be all for it!!
              Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB

              Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT

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              • Boltjolt
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                Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

                Gordon took less money to leave the Bolts. Did Pouncy take less money with the Bolts than he wanted from Miami? Did Brady take less money to leave the Pats? You don’t always get what you want.
                Did he? I think 8 mil a year is pretty good for a player that had one 1,000 yard season. You think a team would have gave him 10 mil per? We werent even going to offer him that again.

                Miami released Pouncey.

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                • like54ninjas
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                  Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

                  Gordon took less money to leave the Bolts. Did Pouncy take less money with the Bolts than he wanted from Miami? Did Brady take less money to leave the Pats? You don’t always get what you want.
                  All the players you listed were UFA who signed new contracts. Trent has a binding contract.
                  My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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                  • SuperCharged
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                    You think this will be the most watched event of the year? Absolutely. It's been strange with zero sports activity. Oh and please.... NO TUA!

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                    • Lone Bolt
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                      Per rotoworld, Miami doesn't want Herbert...and may not even select Tua...have an eye on Andrew Thomas. For what its worth, probably just smoke...but if other teams are convinced Miami is out of the running, and won't be outbidding them(which they could probably do to anybody) those teams may be the sources of all these calls to the Skins and Lions.
                      Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB

                      Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT

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                      • SYB
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                        Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

                        Gordon took less money to leave the Bolts. Did Pouncy take less money with the Bolts than he wanted from Miami? Did Brady take less money to leave the Pats? You don’t always get what you want.
                        FFS... Not a single one of those were even close to being in the same situation. :sigh:


                        Gordon didn't leave for less money, he wasn't offered shit, last years offer was no longer on the table and he wasn't gonna get anything more than what Denver threw at him.

                        Pouncey got released.

                        And NE refused to pay Brady what he's getting now.

                        Let me remind you that your original argument was that $12mil was "market" for a top notch LT. I've offered several examples as to why that's not the case, and all you have to offer is your uniformed opinion and a bunch of apples to oranges arguments. $12mil isn't the market price for a top end starting LT just because you want it to be. Deal with it...:shrug:

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          I doubt we are going to be in any Trent Williams sweepstakes to acquire him.

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