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  • dmac_bolt
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    Originally posted by FarAwayBoltFan View Post

    Since Anthony Lynn was hired as coach, we have added Geno Smith, Cardale Jones, Tyrod Taylor, and Easton Stick. Philip Rivers was not extended and was allowed to walk. Philip was apparently not the QB Lynn wanted long term. We don't know what type of QB or specifically which QB Coach Lynn is looking for long term because he hasn't said and likely won't ever say. Saying could handcuff the GMs draft options, trade options, etc. But we can make inferences based on his actions. Based on the 4 QBs in and the 1 QB out, we can infer what what type of QB he is seeking. Based on the type of QB he seems to be seeking, we can infer what system he is looking to run. Then again, maybe TT/AL are just looking for a cheaper QB. That fits as well.
    I dunno - I see what you see. But Geno wasnt much of a runner. Turned out Cardale wasnt that much of a runner either. Stick is a runner, not convinced he’s an NFL QB yet. First we have to assume that TT is taking his player personnel direction from AL and AL actually has some specific system that a guy like Burrow wouldn’t fit in.

    Maybe as simple as TT and AL are both sick of watching an old tall guy run like a baby giraffe with a rhino tranq dart in his thigh. Whether that means he just wants a QB that can evade and escape, or he really wants to run an RPO / Jackson style offense - beats me - I’ve never seen Al’s “system”. If I were AL - I’d want a QB that could also run. Its an extra dimension, who doesn’t like more dimensions? But the key is he first must be a QB.
    “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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    • FarAwayBoltFan
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      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

      Maybe as simple as TT and AL are both sick of watching an old tall guy run like a baby giraffe with a rhino tranq dart in his thigh.
      I dunno either. Just speculating. Hopefully we'll get some clarity during FA and the draft. But, we probably won't know squat until week 4/5 of the regular season. Oh, and I loved the giraffe visual. I will have to share that one.

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      • Boltnut
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        Originally posted by FarAwayBoltFan View Post

        Since Anthony Lynn was hired as coach, we have added Geno Smith, Cardale Jones, Tyrod Taylor, and Easton Stick....
        Now I'm sad...

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        • Lone Bolt
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          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          I dunno - I see what you see. But Geno wasnt much of a runner. Turned out Cardale wasnt that much of a runner either. Stick is a runner, not convinced he’s an NFL QB yet. First we have to assume that TT is taking his player personnel direction from AL and AL actually has some specific system that a guy like Burrow wouldn’t fit in.

          Maybe as simple as TT and AL are both sick of watching an old tall guy run like a baby giraffe with a rhino tranq dart in his thigh. Whether that means he just wants a QB that can evade and escape, or he really wants to run an RPO / Jackson style offense - beats me - I’ve never seen Al’s “system”. If I were AL - I’d want a QB that could also run. Its an extra dimension, who doesn’t like more dimensions? But the key is he first must be a QB.
          Geno and Cardale were both fairly mobile, and capable of design QB runs, rollouts, escaping the pocket for positive yards vs sack, etc.....if not full on RPO QBs...and to add to the poster you quoted, we also courted RG III....twice I believe.

          I think it highly likely that the plan will be one of the following:

          1. Tyrod/Stick
          2. Tua behind Taylor, if they really believe he will heal fully over the next year
          3. Herbert behind Taylor, with Herbert showing he has a nice set of wheels last year
          4. Jalen Hurts behind Taylor...very much a Lynn type of guy

          Burrows has some mobility....but don't know how that translates to the speedy NFL, considering how much he will cost. As much as I like Fromm and Eason, they don't seem to fit the mold.

          My gut tells me Lynn got an extension, because he is going to get a rookie, and 2 years gives him a chance to transition into that rookie...using first Tyrod, then the new guy...two shots to make his philosophy work...we should know if what we are doing is working by the end of his contract...that is what I think the plan is, anyway.
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          • Topcat
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            Originally posted by FarAwayBoltFan View Post

            Since Anthony Lynn was hired as coach, we have added Geno Smith, Cardale Jones, Tyrod Taylor, and Easton Stick. Philip Rivers was not extended and was allowed to walk. Philip was apparently not the QB Lynn wanted long term. We don't know what type of QB or specifically which QB Coach Lynn is looking for long term because he hasn't said and likely won't ever say. Saying could handcuff the GMs draft options, trade options, etc. But we can make inferences based on his actions. Based on the 4 QBs in and the 1 QB out, we can infer what what type of QB he is seeking. Based on the type of QB he seems to be seeking, we can infer what system he is looking to run. Then again, maybe TT/AL are just looking for a cheaper QB. That fits as well.
            Tyrod was an upgrade over Smith & Jones...jury still out on Stick...

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              EARLY NFL DRAFT QB RANKINGS (ANALYTICS)


              BY HAYDEN WINKS
              February 12, 2020, 11:03 am ET
              Updated On: February 12, 2020, 3:01 pm ET
              FacebookTwitterRedditEmailPrint For modeling quarterback prospects, we can completely ignore every athletic test, including size, and just focus on what they did in college. Particularly, age-adjusted production, mobility, and strength of schedule are predictive to NFL success. In this column, I’ll share each NFL Combine invitee’s historical ranking in these metrics, write up what I see on film with some statistical evidence to back up my opinions, and run each prospect through my model...




              These are my model’s quarterback rankings for the 2020 NFL Draft class. If you’re curious, I listed the top-20 quarterback prospects of the last four classes here. This is really generalizing the draft class, but Joe Burrow is in the great prospect category with Tua Tagovailoa, Jalen Hurts, and Justin Herbert in the mix as potential franchise quarterbacks with different price tags. Meanwhile, Jordan Love, Jake Fromm, Jacob Eason, and Anthony Gordon all hover around the “Minimum Threshold” line as probable NFL backups with various levels of upside. The rest of the quarterback group is facing an uphill battle, so I’ll be locking in all of my focus on the top eight quarterbacks.



              Of course, my model’s rankings and my personal rankings are going to be a little different as I think I can pick up on minor things that my model isn’t incorporating. For now, I have the 2020 quarterbacks ranked as:

              1. Joe Burrow - Day 1 starter with Hall of Fame potential after an all-time Heisman campaign.

              2. Tua Tagovailoa - Potential franchise QB if healthy after a rookie-year redshirt.

              3. Justin Herbert - Boom-or-bust franchise QB with good and bad traits.

              4. Jalen Hurts - Versatile, high-floor backup QB with starting potential as a stud college player.

              5. Jake Fromm - Low-upside fringe starter as a pocket passer with average traits.

              6. Jordan Love - A “toolsy” developmental project coming off an awful college season.

              7. Anthony Gordon - An against all odds backup QB with high-end college production.

              8. Jacob Eason - A big armed, backup QB with awareness and mobility issues.





              2020 QB Profiles


              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 1st



              Joe Burrow (6’3/216) is the most valuable 2020 NFL prospect, even after factoring in some of his potential red flags -- age and one season of quality production. He has elite accuracy to all levels of the field because of smooth mechanics and delivery, which led to the second-best single-season FBS completion percentage (76.3%) since at least 1956. His ability to diagnose coverages, throw with anticipation, and bounce from first to second and third reads give him Hall of Fame upside as an NFL pocket passer. He also moves well enough to avoid blitzers and can pick up the occasional first down with his legs. Overall, Burrow profiles as a Day 1 starter who wins with accuracy, decision-making, and mental toughness. These three traits explain why he broke the single-season FBS record for passing touchdowns (60) last season. Of the 178 FBS quarterback prospects since 2005, Burrow ranks 5th overall in my model as a 98th percentile quarterback prospect.



              Situational Stats:

              Yards per attempt against FBS winning teams: 10.2 (2nd of 16 Combine invitees)

              1st down rate on passes: 44% (1st)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 43% (2nd)




              Note: This uses Tua’s 2018 stats because he didn’t play the entire season last year.

              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 5th



              Tua Tagovailoa (6’1/218) will need to be cleared by the medical staff (dislocated hip), but he has the arm talent, processing, and mobility to be a plus-level franchise quarterback if healthy. Before his injury, he was able pick up first downs as a scrambler and maneuvered inside the pocket at a high level while keeping his eyes downfield. His high-end accuracy and ability to read defenses in and out of the pocket make him a strong deep passer despite not possessing elite-level arm strength. He was also extremely productive on short-yardage passes because his accuracy and timing lead to yards after the catch. Having coach Saban and 4-6 NFL-caliber pass-catchers every season certainly did help in the YAC department, but it’s hard to average 10.8 YPA against FBS winning teams without being a stud. Overall, Tagovailoa can be an above-average NFL passer with scrambling ability if his body allows it. He finished 2nd in Total QBR out of all FBS quarterbacks in both 2018 and 2019 seasons and is a 93rd percentile quarterback prospect in my model. Hopefully his hip continues to improve.



              Situational Stats (these are his 2019 stats):

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 10.8 (1st)

              1st down rate on passes: 40% (3rd)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 29% (7th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 80th



              Jalen Hurts (6’1/218) had a very successful college career as a powerful, dual-threat quarterback but some concerns with his short-area accuracy and ability to bounce from read to read limit his draft stock. He’s a great designed runner and averaged 8.5 rushing yards on scrambles, which helped him lead college football with 17 red zone rushing touchdowns. That includes running backs. His mobility does get him in trouble at times, however. Despite having the highest passer rating inside the pocket, he broke out of clean pockets way too often. That tendency to “panic scramble” stems from his iffy ability to get off first reads. That’s probably his worst trait. He also struggles with accuracy on short, timing routes because of his slow delivery. With that said, he was not a bad passer last year after taking major leaps under Lincoln Riley. He had the fourth-best overall PFF grade among 2019 FBS quarterbacks, led in YPA (11.5) on non-play action attempts, was second in adjusted completion percentage (73.5%) when under pressure, and was sixth in 20+ yard passing. Of course, those stats are buoyed since he’s an Oklahoma quarterback, but calling Hurts a bad passer after what he did last season is inaccurate in my opinion. Overall, Hurts’ production, athleticism, and leadership make him a worthwhile Day 2 selection as a short-yardage specialist, intriguing backup quarterback, and potential starter, especially considering he’s only 21 years old.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 9.7 (3rd)

              1st down rate on passes: 43% (2nd)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 35% (3rd)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 7th



              Justin Herbert (6’6/227) has the size, arm strength, and athleticism to wow evaluators at times but his trouble with pressure makes him a boom-or-bust top-8 selection. With his above-average mobility, he can scramble for first downs and make throws on the run, especially since he has high-end arm strength to the sideline. These made him one of the better red zone passers in the class (19 TDs with 0 INTs) last season. His decision-making takes a nosedive whenever pressured because his anticipation is lacking, but he can make any throw in a clean pocket. I wish he was given more chances at taking intermediate shots at Oregon -- his big-play rate (6%) was tied for 10th out of 16 Combine invitees -- because he has the arm strength and touch to hit those throws. In terms of accuracy, he grades out well per Rotoworld’s Derrik Klassen, but when he misses, he misses badly. Our stupid human brains struggle to separate averages from outliers, so his “inconsistent accuracy” might be overblown. His above-average marks in age-adjusted production, passing touchdowns, first-down rate, and YPA against winning FBS teams are evidence against the notion that he’s an inaccurate passer. Overall, Herbert’s iffy awareness is a reason for early-career skepticism, but his tools make him a reasonable top-8 dart throw if you don’t have to trade up to draft him. He’s an 81st percentile quarterback prospect in my model.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.9 (5th)

              1st down rate on passes: 34% (6th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 31% (5th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 25th



              Jordan Love (6’3/225) has the physical tools of an NFL quarterback and can pick up first downs as a scrambler, but he is not a polished product and had awful college production at Utah State. He moves around well out of the pocket and throws with zip from multiple arm angles and platforms, which allows him to create big plays. That’s not up for debate. However, his accuracy is inconsistent, particularly when he throws fadeaways off his back foot. He misses checkdowns and short crossers too often. These misses led to Love ranking 16th out of 16 Combine invitees in first down rate on first down passes despite facing the third-easiest strength of schedule. PFF also graded him as the 101st college quarterback in turnover-worthy play rate last year because he forced too many tight-window throws and went blind to zone defenders at times. Overall, Love has theoretical upside as a toolsy, developmental prospect, but he is a relative long shot to develop into a franchise quarterback after finishing 88th in Total QBR out of 122 college quarterback qualifiers last season. His closest comparables aren’t pretty.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.1 (9th)

              1st down rate on passes: 27% (16th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 21% (14th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 50th



              Jake Fromm (6’2/220) has a vanilla playing style with an average arm, but his touch, timing, and mental processing are traits that should translate. He will never scramble, but he can maneuver in the pocket enough to avoid some sacks. He is at his best when he’s reading defenses in the pocket, using his plus-accuracy to hit his short and intermediate throws. He can generate power when he fully steps into passes, yet mostly floats his deep passes with mediocre success. For a cerebral passer, I thought he’d be better at keeping the chains moving last year, but he was 12th out of 16 Combine invitees in 1st down rate on first down passes. Of course, Georgia’s non creative offensive scheme didn’t put him into fantastic situations. Overall, Fromm’s upside is capped by his average arm and sub-par athleticism, but he slots in as a nice backup and potential bridge quarterback in a heavy play-action, dink-and-dunk offense. Few prospects have his blend of awareness and accuracy. Those traits just didn’t translate to a lot of college production.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.5 (8th)

              1st down rate on passes: 29% (12th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 29% (6th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 42nd



              Jacob Eason (6’5/227) has the prototypical size and high-end arm strength to be an NFL pocket passer, but he has a couple of potential fatal flaws. He thinks he moves like a point guard even though he moves like a power forward, which causes him to take far too many sacks. He also invites pressure because he locks onto his first read for too long. That leads to turnover-worthy throws. His arm strength does get him out of trouble at times. He peppers deep crossers and can throw the ball down the seam, but he just didn’t do it enough last season after sitting out in 2018 due to transfer rules. He ranked 9th out of 16 Combine invitees in big-play passing, which is his calling card. Overall, Eason’s arm strength will be amongst the best in the entire NFL, but his lack of short-area touch and habit of creating pressure are problems that will only be magnified against NFL defenses.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.7 (7th)

              1st down rate on passes: 34% (7th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 21% (13th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 160th



              Anthony Gordon’s (6’2/199) is a highly productive, accurate Air Raid pocket passer with below-average arm strength and athleticism. He’s about as athletic as me, so he offers just about nothing as a scrambler and gets in trouble whenever he breaks out of the pocket. He made a few horrible decisions on the run too, but otherwise was an efficient rhythm passer in the pocket who throws a very catchable ball, particularly underneath. He’s allergic to throwing the deep ball, however, partially because he has below-average arm strength. He ranked 152nd of 153 FBS quarterbacks in percentage of pass attempts that traveled at least 20 yards downfield (8%) per PFF because of it. His deep ball hangs in the air a bit more than you’d like, but he throws with a lot of touch if his receiver creates some separation and occasionally can zip the ball into tight windows near the sideline when he really steps into a pass. Overall, Gordon’s elite age-adjusted production and above-average accuracy make him an intriguing backup quarterback in a quick-hitting offense even if his athletic traits limit his overall potential. For the record, he tested slightly better in my model than Gardner Minshew and Luke Falk who both played in coach Mike Leach’s system at Washington State.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 6.7 (15th)

              1st down rate on passes: 28% (14th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 26% (9th)


              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 122nd



              Steven Montez’s (6’5/230) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 6.8 (14th)

              1st down rate on passes: 28% (13th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 13% (16th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 171st



              Nathan Stanley’s (6’4/243) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.0 (11th)

              1st down rate on passes: 30% (10th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 22% (12th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 206th



              Shea Patterson’s (6’1/204) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.9 (5th)

              1st down rate on passes: 35% (4th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 24% (11th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: UDFA



              Cole McDonald’s (6’4/220) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 8.0 (4th)

              1st down rate on passes: 31% (9th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 33% (4th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: 257th



              Brian Lewerke’s (6’3/216) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.0 (11th)

              1st down rate on passes: 32% (8th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 25% (10th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: UDFA



              James Morgan’s (6’4/223) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 7.1 (9th)

              1st down rate on passes: 29% (11th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 18% (15th)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: UDFA



              Jake Luton’s (6’6/227) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 5.4 (16th)

              1st down rate on passes: 34% (5th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 44% (1st)




              Projected Overall Draft Pick: UDFA



              Kelly Bryant’s (6’3/221) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: 6.9 (13th)

              1st down rate on passes: 28% (15th)

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: 29% (8th)






              Projected Overall Draft Pick: UDFA



              Kevin Davidson’s (6’4/227) profile will be posted after the NFL Combine if he gets more buzz.



              Situational Stats:

              YPA against FBS winning teams: NA

              1st down rate on passes: NA

              Touchdown rate on red zone passes: NA

              The 2020 QB Class:


              Note: Tua’s stats are from 2018 because of his injury last year.



              Outside of draft capital, age-adjusted production is the best indicator I’ve come across for modeling quarterback prospects. Not only does it serve us well in the model, but it’s been rock solid as a minimum threshold. Of the 20 FBS quarterbacks drafted after 2004 who averaged 15.0 fantasy points per game during their first four NFL seasons (aka rookie contract production), 19 of them finished to the right of the above line. That’s great news for the first six quarterbacks listed, but awful news for Jacob Eason, Jake Fromm, and Jordan Love, all of whom have generated Day 1 or Day 2 buzz early in draft season.


              Note: Tua’s stats are from 2018 because of his injury last year.



              Strength of schedule surprisingly was useful in my quarterback model. In fact, it might be the most underrated aspect of the evaluation. Most of this year’s quarterbacks passed the minimum threshold, but Jordan Love didn’t make the cut while playing at Utah State. That’s two strikes against him already, so you film grinders better be really confident in your ability to diagnose underrated talent. I’ll be watching a lot of Love tape (that sounded bad) before submitting my final draft grades. Lastly, Cole McDonald’s high grades in age-adjusted production can partially be explained by facing a really soft schedule. That’s why he didn’t test in my model.




              If you haven’t noticed, mobility is getting more and more important for quarterbacks. My model puts more weight into a quarterback being mobile than you’d likely expect, which partially explains why it’s so high on Jalen Hurts, who I’d argue is a high-floor prospect because of his legs. So far, Jordan Love has failed to meet two of the minimum thresholds (age-adjusted production and strength of schedule), but he definitely checks this box. His mobility is probably my favorite trait and one that should translate at the next level. The statue quarterbacks of this year’s class are Anthony Gordon, Jacob Eason, and Nathan Stanley.




              I didn’t test the predictiveness of this stat, so I’m not sure if it matters at all. But I did find it interesting as it might show that “clutch factor” that film grinders fawn over. Most prospects were sandwiched between 6.5 and 8.0 yards per attempt against winning FBS teams last year. And then there were Tua Tagovailoa, Joe Burrow, and Jalen Hurts who all played fantastic football against decent teams. As you’ll see, these three quarterbacks were much better than the rest of the group last year.




              Once again, it’s Joe Burrow, Jalen Hurts, and Tua Tagovailoa leading the way. This time it’s in first down rate on first down passes. I like this stat for two reasons: the sample size is bigger than other situational stats and we all agree first downs are good. Unfortunately, there’s not a big gap between QB4 (Shea Patterson) and QB16 (Jordan Love).




              The last chart is a fun one -- big plays. Nothing is really changing though. We have Tua Tagovailoa, Jalen Hurts, and Joe Burrow at the top of the list with everyone else littered below. The argument that Jordan Love has big-play potential as a runner and passer is somewhat supported here, but he’s still in the middle of the pack, not at the top.



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                      A few under the radar prospects for ya’ll to checkout....

                      Gabriel Davis (WR) UCF - Big, deceptively fast, tremendous hand use/release skills, strong hands, elite body control through catch point.
                      Stephen Guidry (WR) MSST - rare & elite size/speed combo. Lack of production due to lack of decent QB play.
                      Quez Watkins (WR) USM - see previous mock
                      Joe Reed (WR/RS) - electric acceleration/speed, tough w/powerful build/strength, big play producer & chain mover, position flexibility
                      Van Jefferson (WR) UFL - silky smooth route technician, elite route stems/tree, elite COD agility, quality hands
                      John Hightower (WR) BSU - blazing speed, elusive, RAC all day, KR value, strong soft hands, competes through catch point
                      Cam Gill (LB). WAGNER - excellent athlete with quality fundamentals
                      Casey Toohill (LB) STANFORD - fantastic athlete, smart, good instincts
                      De’Jon Harris (LB) UAR - solid fundamentally sound impact tackler, #2# range, good zone understanding, lacks M2M COD agility
                      Keisean Lucifer-South (LB/EDGE) UCLA - looks the part and flashes but lacks consistent game impact
                      Jabari Zuniga (LB/EDGE) UFL - tremendous first 2 steps, flexibility to bend/flatten arc, good in underneath zones, decent length, great grip strength
                      Josiah Coatney (DT) UMS - Big, stout dude with some real inside rush upside
                      Darrion Daniels (DT) NEBRASKA - Big, physical dude with good movement skills
                      Auzoyah Alufohai (DT) UWG - Big very athletic monster with length & power. So raw has no idea what he’s doing. Only 5/6 years of football.
                      Mike Panasiuk (DT) MICHST - Stout technician that plays with leverage, power, & NON-STOP MOTOR.
                      Cheyenne O’Grady (TE) UAR - great on field w/big upside. Off-field issues are red flags.
                      Ezra Cleveland (OT) BSU - excellent feet/athleticism, stunt reco, eliminates edge speed, adjusts/resets feet/anchor to absorb counters. Coachable technique flaws.
                      Jon Runyan (OG/OC) UM - college OT who’s skillset/size translates inside, techniquely refined, great bloodline
                      Matt Pert (OT) UCONN - Big, physical dude with incredible length and movement skills. Has technique issues that are coachable
                      Victor Johnson (OT) APPST - really good feet with fantastic length
                      Gage Cervenka (OG/OC) CLEMSON - Massively powerful with decent athleticism. Former DT w/championship wrestling background.
                      Javon Mosley (OT/OG) UNM - ideal package w/terrible fundamentals
                      John Phillips (OG) BC - physical technician that is adept in both phases
                      Trystan Colon-Castillo (OC) MIZZOU - excellent movement skills, wide base stance, handstrike placement, football IQ. Needs strength and technical improvements.
                      Larry Rountree (RB) MIZZOU - quick powerful dude with burst, vision, and good hands
                      DeeJay Dallas (RB) UMCANES - good combo of size, speed, burst. Tough power runner w/limited vision and agility.
                      Damon Arnette (CB) OHSU - fantastic physical package with speed, closing burst, ballskills, press disruption skills. Past off field issues.
                      A.J. Green (CB) OKST - long, fast, smart. Hiccup in backpedal transition, ability to plant/drive on inside pivot foot, handstrike place.
                      Stanford Samuels III (CB) FSU - elite ballskills, fast, massive length, short memory. Must get stronger and learn to tackle.
                      Dane Jackson (CB) PITT - quick, fast, good press disruption skills, solid flexibility/COD
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                        Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
                        A few under the radar prospects for ya’ll to checkout....

                        Gabriel Davis (WR) UCF - Big, deceptively fast, tremendous hand use/release skills, strong hands, elite body control through catch point.
                        Stephen Guidry (WR) MSST - rare & elite size/speed combo. Lack of production due to lack of decent QB play.
                        Quez Watkins (WR) USM - see previous mock
                        Joe Reed (WR/RS) - electric acceleration/speed, tough w/powerful build/strength, big play producer & chain mover, position flexibility Round Six
                        Van Jefferson (WR) UFL - silky smooth route technician, elite route stems/tree, elite COD agility, quality hands
                        John Hightower (WR) BSU - blazing speed, elusive, RAC all day, KR value, strong soft hands, competes through catch point
                        Cam Gill (LB). WAGNER - excellent athlete with quality fundamentals
                        Casey Toohill (LB) STANFORD - fantastic athlete, smart, good instincts
                        De’Jon Harris (LB) UAR - solid fundamentally sound impact tackler, #2# range, good zone understanding, lacks M2M COD agility
                        Keisean Lucifer-South (LB/EDGE) UCLA - looks the part and flashes but lacks consistent game impact
                        Jabari Zuniga (LB/EDGE) UFL - tremendous first 2 steps, flexibility to bend/flatten arc, good in underneath zones, decent length, great grip strength
                        Josiah Coatney (DT) UMS - Big, stout dude with some real inside rush upside
                        Darrion Daniels (DT) NEBRASKA - Big, physical dude with good movement skills
                        Auzoyah Alufohai (DT) UWG - Big very athletic monster with length & power. So raw has no idea what he’s doing. Only 5/6 years of football.
                        Mike Panasiuk (DT) MICHST - Stout technician that plays with leverage, power, & NON-STOP MOTOR.
                        Cheyenne O’Grady (TE) UAR - great on field w/big upside. Off-field issues are red flags.
                        Ezra Cleveland (OT) BSU - excellent feet/athleticism, stunt reco, eliminates edge speed, adjusts/resets feet/anchor to absorb counters. Coachable technique flaws. Round Three
                        Jon Runyan (OG/OC) UM - college OT who’s skillset/size translates inside, techniquely refined, great bloodline
                        Matt Pert (OT) UCONN - Big, physical dude with incredible length and movement skills. Has technique issues that are coachable
                        Victor Johnson (OT) APPST - really good feet with fantastic length
                        Gage Cervenka (OG/OC) CLEMSON - Massively powerful with decent athleticism. Former DT w/championship wrestling background.
                        Javon Mosley (OT/OG) UNM - ideal package w/terrible fundamentals
                        John Phillips (OG) BC - physical technician that is adept in both phases
                        Trystan Colon-Castillo (OC) MIZZOU - excellent movement skills, wide base stance, handstrike placement, football IQ. Needs strength and technical improvements.
                        Larry Rountree (RB) MIZZOU - quick powerful dude with burst, vision, and good hands
                        DeeJay Dallas (RB) UMCANES - good combo of size, speed, burst. Tough power runner w/limited vision and agility.
                        Damon Arnette (CB) OHSU - fantastic physical package with speed, closing burst, ballskills, press disruption skills. Past off field issues.
                        A.J. Green (CB) OKST - long, fast, smart. Hiccup in backpedal transition, ability to plant/drive on inside pivot foot, handstrike place.
                        Stanford Samuels III (CB) FSU - elite ballskills, fast, massive length, short memory. Must get stronger and learn to tackle.
                        Dane Jackson (CB) PITT - quick, fast, good press disruption skills, solid flexibility/COD
                        Round Five

                        Hits for me !!
                        TY ninj...


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                          Bolt Spit-Baller
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                          Gage cervenka intrigues me
                          wrestling background specifically
                          P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
                          P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
                          P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
                          P4. Obnoxious Communication - Matlock

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