2020 Draft Prospect Discussion

[Fleet]

Different ways to go.

Jeudy, Lamb must be considered because they are so damn good.

On the other hand, we can find an UDFA
good enough to make the team, blindfolded.

Everyone in between looks excellent.

It sure as hell is a PON.

And BTW hindsight geniuses,
Tyrell has plantar fasciitis.

Some good takes on the top WRs. I agree with his take on Jeudy. Best route runner. Best combo of speed and routes is probably Lamb. Best speed, routes and hands probably Ruggs imo. I like him complimenting the 2 studs we have. I think if we draft a WR at 6 it signals the end for Allen after this year.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2...rs-who-is-wr1/

[blueman]

Not worried about bipolar with Herbert. Just not a leader or good under pressure. Maybe he’s not yet tested, but that’s why = risk.

[wu-dai clan]

Some good takes on the top WRs. I agree with his take on Jeudy. Best route runner. Best combo of speed and routes is probably Lamb. Best speed, routes and hands probably Ruggs imo. I like him complimenting the 2 studs we have. I think if we draft a WR at 6 it signals the end for Allen after this year.

Agree.
TEs will be much sought after, too.
Lots of drooling in Mobile over Trautman.
There's Cole Kmet. Harrison Bryant.
So shiny.
Where's the next Kittle/Kelce ?
These dudes are in Miami this weekend, yunno.

My sources tell me that you like Ruggs, Fleet.
Fast as Tyreek.
Wouldn't it be nice.

[Fleet]

Agree.
TEs will be much sought after, too.
Lots of drooling in Mobile over Trautman.
There's Cole Kmet. Harrison Bryant.
So shiny.
Where's the next Kittle/Kelce ?
These dudes are in Miami this weekend, yunno.

My sources tell me that you like Ruggs, Fleet.
Fast as Tyreek.
Wouldn't it be nice.

I actually forgot to post the link. lol

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/2...rs-who-is-wr1/

[wu-dai clan]

We’re not taking a WR at 6 after just taking a WR at 7 a couple of years ago

Jeudy, Jeudy, Jeudy.

[Fleet]

The comparisons being thrown around out there are.....

Jeudy = OBJ
Lamb = Dre Hopkins
Ruggs - Hill

Ruggs is a much better route runner than Hill.

[Fleet]

2020 Senior Bowl: Offensive line game report

By Colin Lindsay | January 27, 2020
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There are a number of ways one could joke about the very disappointing play of the offensive line during last weekend’s Senior Bowl game from “they really were offensive” to “the Big uglies were indeed ugly!” All joking aside, any team hoping to find some hidden gems along the offensive line for the 2020 draft had to have been disappointed by what they are seeing on the game tapes for the unit. Even the top-rated guys that we were really excited to see – rising Houston OT Josh Jones and LSU C Lloyd Cushenberry – didn’t put on the kind of dominating performance that one would have expected to see from players who were reportedly on the verge of crashing the first-round party at this year’s draft. For the record, Jones was still the best OT – by far – in last weekend’s Senior Bowl game. Jones was quick off the snap, showed a very smooth, compact slide, got good arm extension and consistently showed the speed and agility to cut off the edge. Too often, though, Jones appeared to set his feet too early in the play and did allow defenders to get to beat him to the outside on more than one occasion because he’d stopped moving his feet. Indeed, our biggest knock on Jones was that he seldom really finished off his blocks. He also had a tendency to dip his head at the moment of initial contact which put him off balance at times.

We saw a lot of the same thing from LSU’s Cushenberry. No question, he was getting off the snap as quickly as anyone on the South OL; he also moved well in space and made a number of solid blocks in space. At the same time, though, he tended to give up too much ground absorbing the initial contact of a straight-ahead bull-rusher. He also struggled at times maintaining his feet when he had to make a quick lateral move. And like Jones above, Cushenberry had a tendency to give up on blocks way too soon. In fact, a pretty good case can be made that the best interior blocker on the day was Cushenberry’s LSU teammate OG Damien Lewis. Lewis is wide-body interior lineman who got off the ball quickly, showed good balance and leg drive through the play, and also showed enough athleticism to get out and make some plays in space. He also did a good job in pass protection, again keeping his feet alive and battling the guy in front of him until the whistle. Kentucky OG Logan Stenberg also had a solid outing, although he was not as effective when asked to get into the secondary and make a block on the move. Same for fellow OGs Ben Bredeson of Michigan, Ohio State’s Jonah Jackson and Hakeem Adeniji of Kansas. Bredeson and Jackson are bruisers who were very physical at the point of attack in the run game and battled in pass protection, but didn’t anchor all that well and did give up some penetration up the middle. Meanwhile, Adeniji at times looked like the best offensive linemen in the game as he was exceptionally quick off the snap, showed good balance and strength, and nice athleticism in space, but did have a tendency to drop his head and lunge on a couple of plays that resulted in complete whiffs. We also though that both North centers – Nick Harris of Washington and Temple’s Matt Hennessey – had strong games. Neither guy is all that big or physical and weren’t going to blow anyone off the line of scrimmage, but both were quick off the snap and did a very nice job sealing off interior defenders.

A pretty good case can be made that other than Houston’s Jones, there wasn’t an OT in Mobile, at least one who played in the actual Senior Bowl game this year, who looked the part of a future NFL starter at the position. In fact, several OTs, including Colton McKivitz of West Virginia and Mississippi State’s Tyree Phillips, did look much more comfortable when they kicked inside to OG and didn’t have to contend with quite as much space as on the outside. Outside, though, several OTs including Terence Steele of Texas Tech, South Carolina State’s Alex Taylor, and Calvin Throckmorton of Oregon couldn’t block anyone, at least in pass protection. Indeed, there were times during the game when it was touch-and-go whether those guys could even slow anyone down.

[jamrock]

The comparisons being thrown around out there are.....

Jeudy = OBJ
Lamb = Dre Hopkins
Ruggs - Hill

Ruggs is a much better route runner than Hill.

If those are the comps, I take Ruggs. We need speed.

hopkins is a great receiver but Keenan fills that role well for us. We need burners

[wu-dai clan]

Fleet, regarding the above detailed Oline report,
there are reports from others in Mobile,
that are also detailed,
and are diametrically opposed to this.

In the final analysis, Oline draft slotting with be scheme dependent.

Who will be our new Oline coach ?

For me, Nick Harris, as an example, went from highly touted,
to do not draft,
unless he gains 15# without losing any athleticism.

On Sunday we will see Olines that are maybe a little above average,
but definitely are cases of the sum being greater than the total of the parts.

It's the playcalling !

BTW, GBN, I really like Cushenberry. You're wrong.

Dagummit Chargers, get it right, with our Oline.

[21&500]

I feel you woody
I’m at an impasse when reading profiles and watching “film”
unsettling
i’m thinking Lynn will have major influence
and will want to recreate the Shanarat zbs
I secretly was a huge fan of the approach at the time and still today. (Don’t tell the wifey I liked anything Bronco!)

[alex8080]

pre draft questions:
is adderleys future role as #2 CB?
can malik jefferson perform to his talent prior to ncaa injuries?
is meeks a fit at off corner?
is syl willaims LAC run stuffer at 0-1 tech?

answering these helps analyze their draft needs

[wu-dai clan]

Good takes, alex !!