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  • Formula 21
    Why not us?
    • Jun 2013
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    #913
    Hau'oli Kikaha: The 'What-If'

    Edge-rushers are always in demand, especially in today's NFL, when quarterbacks are more important than ever. It makes sense that as quarterbacks become more critical to higher win percentages, those pass-rushers who can stop them from getting anything done on a regular basis would rise in importance as well. The Houston Texans proved this when they took South Carolina's Jadeveon Clowney first overall in the 2014 draft, and though Clowney's rookie campaign was cut short due to injury, the point stands -- true pass-disruptors will make a lot of money and have a lot of impact in this league.

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    Kikaha is ranked behind the group of elite 2015 pass-rushing outside linebackers, but that has more to do with his two ACL injuries than anything else. When he's been healthy, Kikaha has proven to be one of the more consistent pass-disruptors in the NCAA. Washington's all-time sack leader, Kikaha combined for 40.5 tackles for loss and 32 sacks in his last two seasons. He led the NCAA with 19 sacks last year, and as a pure burner off the edge, there aren't many in his class.

    "He's one of the most beastly pass-rushers I've ever played with," Shelton said of his teammate. "Kikaha is someone I look up to, he's like an older brother for me. He definitely pushed me to step up my pass-rush game. I definitely challenged him at the beginning of the season with my sacks. It's something we do at Washington. We love to compete. Our defense is filled with athletes. If you're going to produce, you've got to show effort and make the plays that you need to make."

    Kihaha is a quiet assassin who is known to turn on his teammates for bringing anything less than optimal effort -- his compatriots describe him as the conscience of that 2014 defense.

    "He's basically a technician," Shelton said. "He's going to kill you with speed, kill you with power, but he's very detailed. Just working with him in practice, sometimes he gets on you for making little mistakes. That's something you need on a team."

    The tape shows that Kikaha can be an NFL-level pass-rusher, but the second- to third-round grades have more behind them than his injury history. At 6'2'' and 253 pounds, Kikaha sometimes fails to bring optimal strength to the run game, and he's not always an optimal asset in pass coverage. He could also use a few more pass-rush moves, especially a dominant inside counter -- there are times when bigger and more agile tackles will make him disappear, and that will only increase in the NFL. Some teams may look to put him at defensive end in a 4-3 front, or he could be a straight-up hand-off-the-ground "endbacker" in a 3-4 base defense. Either way, if he rounds out his skillset, Kikaha could be a major bargain in the middle rounds.
    Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
    Let’s win one for Mack.

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    • Formula 21
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      #914
      RB Trent Richardson
      Alabama SEC
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      Drafted By: Browns

      Round 1
      Pick 3
      Overall 3

      Grade
      93.5 ?

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      Draft Analysis:

      Mayock's take: "I've been banging my head for two months that the Browns needed to draft Trent Richardson. ... They're saying this kid is so special, not only do we believe in him at four, but we're going to give away an extra pick to get a running back in the big-boy division. You play the Steelers, Ravens, Bengals -- bad weather, sloppy fields. What does this kid do for you? He keeps you in the game, he shortens the game, and he gives you a chance to win in the fourth quarter."

      5'9" Height
      30 1/4" Arm Length
      228LBS. Weight
      9 1/2" Hands

      Overview

      Richardson is a talented back who should garner a top-five pick in this year's draft, regardless of the idea that the shelf life of running backs doesn't warrant the risk of a top pick. Richardson is durable enough to handle a season full of carries, and with the new CBA rules putting a ceiling on rookie salaries, it will be tough for teams to pass on such a talented, polished back.
      Analysis
      Strengths
      Richardson is as compact and coiled an athlete as the position has seen since Adrian Peterson. Richardson is explosive, powerful and balanced. He is a heady and instinctual player who is patient enough to wait for blocks and quick enough to cut backfield to daylight. Richardson has a strong core that he uses to break arm tackles and get physical leverage under blitzers in pass protection. He is a true three-down back who can be effective on screens.
      Weaknesses
      Richardson ran behind a very good, experienced line at Alabama. He will likely prove that he has the talent to make plays on his own, but much of his production were yards on plays in a good scheme with a seam and an opportunity to get to linebacker and safety level without much trouble. He may have more trouble getting to the perimeter at the next level.
      Oops. The last great RB cut today.
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      Let’s win one for Mack.

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      • Fleet
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        #915
        Funchess with a low 4.5 at his pro day. I have always liked him.

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        • Panamamike
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          #916
          Originally posted by Fleet View Post
          Funchess with a low 4.5 at his pro day. I have always liked him.
          Hmmmmm....very raw with suspect hands. Physically gifted athlete but I like him a lot less than others and have him ranked much lower.

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          • Fleet
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            #917
            Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
            Hmmmmm....very raw with suspect hands. Physically gifted athlete but I like him a lot less than others and have him ranked much lower.
            Sounds like most of our impressions of Benjamin last year. I think in the 3rd round hes great value.

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            • Boltjolt
              Dont let the PBs fool ya
              • Jun 2013
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              #918
              I think our first two picks are WR-RB or RB-WR with a OLB to follow. Would of liked us to take a shot at Jabaal Sheard who signed w/ New England. He is still only 25 but oh well.

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              • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                #919
                Chargers visit with Bud Dupree scheduled.

                Scouts met with Ty Sambrono at his pro-day.
                Go Rivers!

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                • Fleet
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                  #920
                  Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                  I think our first two picks are WR-RB or RB-WR with a OLB to follow. Would of liked us to take a shot at Jabaal Sheard who signed w/ New England. He is still only 25 but oh well.
                  I feel the same. Some combo of those 3. WR/RB/OLB/OL in the first 4 rounds.

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                  • Millionaire Wussy
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                    #921
                    Originally posted by Fleet View Post
                    I feel the same. Some combo of those 3. WR/RB/OLB/OL in the first 4 rounds.
                    That seems to make sense. Hopefully Carrethers is for real and we don't have huge problems on the d-line again. That's the big area that gets left out. Would be nice to draft a physical TE too.
                    For Stinky-Jon-Wizzleteats....

                    "Pray for strength and healing oh and money!"

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                    • Steve
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                      • Jun 2013
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                      #922
                      The real problem is our DE. And since those players are in their contract years, I am not sure how much we really know about their long term potential. Are they just going to finally play hard for the contract, or are they really getting it together?

                      I would almost have preferred to just cut/trade Liuget and Reyes outright.

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                      • Panamamike
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                        #923
                        Originally posted by Steve View Post
                        The real problem is our DE. And since those players are in their contract years, I am not sure how much we really know about their long term potential. Are they just going to finally play hard for the contract, or are they really getting it together?

                        I would almost have preferred to just cut/trade Liuget and Reyes outright.
                        That makes nonsense IMO. Open up more holes to fill? They are not a salary obstacle. I prefer to add to the position be it through the draft or also a vet FA, and rotate guys to keep them fresh. I would like Malcom Brown. But to just cut them outright is a terrible plan IMO.

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                        • Bolt-O
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                          #924
                          What's with the request for a private workout for Mariotta?

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