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  • #49
    Originally posted by richpjr View Post

    Lynn got a one year contract extension and is in a prove it year and tying his fate to Taylor somehow becoming a better QB than he has shown to be the past decade is just utterly bizarre to me. He might have got a mulligan on the year starting Herbert, but will stubbornly go down in flames with his pet veteran players and coaches.
    Yep...Loyal Lynn sticking with Topsy-Turvy Tyrod kind of reminds me of how he kept doggedly starting Gordon, even when he wasn't ready after his holdout...or how Lynn kept sending Gordon up the gut repeatedly for nada...or how he stuck with Benji long after if was apparent to all of us the dude has a terrible case of butterfingers, not to mention his lackluster ability as a return man...same old dogged, stubborn mentality that will lose us games sooner or later...we got very lucky vs. the Bengals with that penalty that negated a TD and the gimpy kicker...imagine what will happen when we play the good and elite teams...looks like around a 5-11 season to me at this point...

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    • #50
      Originally posted by Charge! View Post

      I agree with not firing Lynn or the DC now...... we are what we are...... and its too late to change things now......Lynn may not be perfect but at least Lynn is a leader and players win lose or draw do play hard for him.....

      BUT, overall stats can be deceiving...... Conservative coaches like Lynn and Marty can artificially make their defenses look better statistically then they really were because if you:

      1. use up all 45 seconds of every play before snapping the ball...
      2. Stay with safe QB and play-calling to avoid turnovers.... (Rivers for various reasons failed at this part last year but Lynn loves Tyrod because he will not take chances until forced to).....
      3. run the ball as much as possible even if unsuccessful.....
      4. Take away deep ball but let the other team complete all the dump-offs and short passes that they want, r=tackling them as quickly as possible....

      All of the above will use up lots of clock, which limits the total number of possessions by both teams, which, win or lose, keeps the total scoring down......and keeps BOTH teams in the game so that any single good play or mistake can win or cost you the game...... It takes a long time for ownership to want to fire a coach that only loses close games.....(because it is easy for the coach to say that if players had just made one more play we could have won).....

      Last year's Chargers defense statistically ranked in the upper middle of NFL in overall yardage and scoring due to the 4 steps listed above....... BUT we all know that the defense was not that good..... last years Chargers defense always allowed the other team to score whenever the other team really needed to no matter how little time was left in the game(even with a few seconds left in DEN we magically gave them a PI on a hail mary to give DEN a last-second FG win)...... last years defense also could never stop the run if the other team needed a first down or a TD(mainly because many players simply could not tackle)..... last years defense ranked last in producing turnovers and ranked nearly last in getting sacks despite having at least two great pass rushers.....

      Its obvious that the FA and draft additions have helped this defense greatly, but we still have mental errors from players or coaches...... Burrow had 2 receivers wide open for easy TD's...... one was dropped and the other Burrow missed..... but our defense was nowhere close..... same thing happened on his 23 yard TD run up the moiddle......no defenders were in the middle of field.... and a TE was wide open in middle on the play where Burrow forced ball to Green who pushed off...... Green did not need to push off....Chargers got very lucky..... we should have lost by at least 4......
      Good point, there, Gzoobie...so, if Bradley is such a great DC, why do we see this same lame game over and over? Opposing team, down by a few points, marches right down the field, usually to score the winning TD or FG...seen this over...and over...and...ZZZZzzzzzZZzzzzzz....

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      • #51
        Originally posted by Charge! View Post

        no need to fire them now...... we made our bed for this season....

        still i dont understnd why Bosa was kept on sideline the majority of the last drive as was Ingram and others ....I swear I saw 3 of 4 DL as backups on that last critical drive...... why not go with your best on last drive??? Bosa came back in once Burrow was in red zone......
        defense cant substitute when offense in hurry up otherwise they get caught with too many on field.

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        • #52
          Noones going anywhere. Spanos family not known for shocks that rock. History has proven that.

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          • #53
            Originally posted by NoMoreChillies View Post

            defense cant substitute when offense in hurry up otherwise they get caught with too many on field.
            In that case, Bradley needs to make REAL sure he has his best defensive players IN PLACE at the start of any opposing team's drive, ESPECIALLY late in the game when the game is on the line...don't assume there will be time to get Bosa back in the game...go on the assumption that there's a good chance the opposing O may well be in hurry-up O...

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            • #54
              Originally posted by Topcat View Post

              In that case, Bradley needs to make REAL sure he has his best defensive players IN PLACE at the start of any opposing team's drive, ESPECIALLY late in the game when the game is on the line...don't assume there will be time to get Bosa back in the game...go on the assumption that there's a good chance the opposing O may well be in hurry-up O...
              or you know...call a timeout

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              • #55
                Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post

                It looked to me like our pass rush was winded by the 4th.
                We do have guys to substitute for Bosa and the guys who start. Our pass rush isn't very good after Bosa, Ingram, Tillery, and Nwosu. You need more than that for your defense to keep up the good efforts, and even be a great defense.

                Gus Bradley doesn't like to blitz. That's well known. The problem with it is you need all guys on the DL to be able to get to the QB. To keep playing the defense honest like Gus has.

                Here's an elephant in the room that is overlooked: Damion Square is not that good of a player. This team has been hiding how bad he is for too long. Sorry Square fans.

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                • #56
                  We did blitz more than usual. I don't think any of our DB or LB are really all that effective at blitzing. They lack the timing and the only thing it helps is when the they tie up blockers it frees up the good pass rushers to not have to beat double teams. But Cinci did a good job of reading the blitz and adjusted the protections to account for all the blitzers and take their shots down the field.

                  We applied much better pressure off of 4 man rushes than when we blitzed.

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                  • #57
                    Originally posted by Paradoxrip View Post
                    Kind of don't get the whole fire Gus thing. When you are taking the field on multiple 3 n outs. You're going to be tired in 4th. They had a long day and it showed. I'll harp on it again. CONDITIONING CONDITIONING CONDITIONING. These multi multi millionaires should be running 2k a day. Wind sprints. Sustained heart rate elevation for 30 minutes a set. As an ex footballer and wannabe mma fighter conditioning and stamina are top of the list ahead of skillset, ability, strength. You could be strong as an ox but if you can't sustain it. All that strength and ability is worthless when the tank is empty.
                    They need to do, short explosive, intervals, or they will lose the explosiveness that helps them win. I may be misunderstanding the 30 minutes a set thing, but that sounds more like a middle distance runner or soccer types. The DL need to be consistently explosive enough to win play after play, and that means a sprinters start, or the OL is going to be a step ahead of them on EVERY snap.

                    There simply is no way to train and have only 1 set of pass rushers who are fast and explosive enough to win on 60-80 plays. They have to have a rotation, and even then, we need to try and sustain the ball to minimize the number of plays the D is on the field.

                    The biggest failing on D was when Gus kept going to the tackles wide alignment, putting the DT both as 3 tech, and allowing Burrows to have the easy runs up the middle. Then when Jenkins was supposed to come up and attack the C, he held back and waiting for the C to come to him, so that the C block took out both Jenkins and Adderley. That was what happened on the TD run, and then Gus kept using that alignment. I like that alignment to rush the QB a lot, but once we saw that Burrow was tuned in to it, time to put it to bed for a week.

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                    • #58
                      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                      Yep...Loyal Lynn sticking with Topsy-Turvy Tyrod kind of reminds me of how he kept doggedly starting Gordon, even when he wasn't ready after his holdout...or how Lynn kept sending Gordon up the gut repeatedly for nada...or how he stuck with Benji long after if was apparent to all of us the dude has a terrible case of butterfingers, not to mention his lackluster ability as a return man...same old dogged, stubborn mentality that will lose us games sooner or later...we got very lucky vs. the Bengals with that penalty that negated a TD and the gimpy kicker...imagine what will happen when we play the good and elite teams...looks like around a 5-11 season to me at this point...
                      We have to be careful that loyal Lynn is not sticking with Tyrod even after Herbert is ready to start.

                      Lynn could come up with excuses to keep Herbert on the bench just like Hue Jackson did with Tyrod and Baker Mayfield.

                      It took the firing of Hue Jackson to start Baker Mayfield

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                      • #59
                        Originally posted by PR#1 View Post

                        We have to be careful that loyal Lynn is not sticking with Tyrod even after Herbert is ready to start.

                        Lynn could come up with excuses to keep Herbert on the bench just like Hue Jackson did with Tyrod and Baker Mayfield.

                        It took the firing of Hue Jackson to start Baker Mayfield
                        Whose job is it to hold Lynn responsible
                        pep?
                        Telesco?
                        veteran players?
                        Relentlessly Seeking Improvement
                        #10

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                        • #60
                          Topcat, you really think a team would fire a coach after a win? Oh wait. Chargers.

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