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  • jamrock
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    Colin Cowherd just did a segment on the Chargers. He said there is no way the Chargers should be underdogs at home to NE. Went thru key roster pieces on both teams. Cam only has 4 td passes this season?

    he then said the nfl is a coaches league and the worst sin an nfl team can make is to waste a stud qb on a rookie deal. Don’t roll the dice on a coordinator. Go get a proven head coach.

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    • ghost
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      Originally posted by jamrock View Post
      Colin Cowherd just did a segment on the Chargers. He said there is no way the Chargers should be underdogs at home to NE. Went thru key roster pieces on both teams. Cam only has 4 td passes this season?

      he then said the nfl is a coaches league and the worst sin an nfl team can make is to waste a stud qb on a rookie deal. Don’t roll the dice on a coordinator. Go get a proven head coach.
      This is Colin's third piece on Anthony Lynn this week. Clearly, he's already tired of seeing Justin Herbert's brilliance being wasted.

      Sharp Football just posted this podcast.


      https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...p/id1485652145

      NFL Week 13: Can We Ever Back Anthony Lynn Again?

      The drums are sounding....

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      • ghost
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        Originally posted by jamrock View Post
        Colin Cowherd just did a segment on the Chargers. He said there is no way the Chargers should be underdogs at home to NE. Went thru key roster pieces on both teams. Cam only has 4 td passes this season?

        he then said the nfl is a coaches league and the worst sin an nfl team can make is to waste a stud qb on a rookie deal.

        Don’t roll the dice on a coordinator. Go get a proven head coach.
        I don't see eye-to-eye with this. I'm a firm believer in the AJ Smith axoim 'Past production is the best indicator of future production.'

        Right now, the best young minds are in the AFC at offensive coordinators. They've already won playoff seeds. You'll see them all when the playoffs roll around. AFC is going to win the Super Bowl too. Better coaching in the AFC.

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        • Boltjolt
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          Originally posted by ghost View Post




          I don't see eye-to-eye with this. I'm a firm believer in the AJ Smith axoim 'Past production is the best indicator of future production.'

          Right now, the best young minds are in the AFC at offensive coordinators. They've already won playoff seeds. You'll see them all when the playoffs roll around. AFC is going to win the Super Bowl too. Better coaching in the AFC.
          AJ was talking about players, not some young first time OCs vying for a HC possition who have never done that.

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          • Originally posted by BoltUp InLA View Post
            No team is well constructed if the OL is not at least adequate for several years running now..

            After reading that first paragraph where you acknowledge that the OL is an issue, but somehow regardless the team is still well constructed, I just have a tough time reading the rest of it. This is not to say that you do not have solid points.. I am just of the belief that the OL is one of the most important position groups on any NFL team.
            Perhaps we are defining "well constructed" differently. If you intend the terms to mean that the team is loaded at every position, then there is not a single "well constructed" team in he entire NFL. Every team in the NFL has holes as does ours.

            I pointed out to you how even the likely playoff teams in the AFC have failed to succeed in one or more areas. That includes KC, PIT, TEN, IND and BUF--all of them.

            What I considered "well constructed" to mean was possessing an above average level of talent. Our team is well constructed in that sense.

            It is simply that the failings of our head coach is resulting in that talent not being fully realized on the field.

            I have spent many posts summarizing the specific failings in various games, so I will not describe all of that in detail again here other than just to summarize by stating that poor coaching played a significant role at a minimum in the losses to KC, CAR, TB, NO, DEN, OAK, MIA and BUF. The poor coaching should have cost us the game at CIN and made the game against NYJ much closer than it needed to be. There was also poor coaching against JAC, but it did not end up being as much of a factor in that game.

            There has been noteworthy poor coaching in every game this season without exception. Based upon Lynn's press conference responses, he does not even understand the nature of his poor coaching, much less how to fix it.

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            • Critty
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              Wow. Just an amazing amount of ignorance in regard to the roster and coaching by some posters here.
              You don't even know that being committed to running the damn ball and checking down to Ekeler vs Patriots makes tons of sense. The strength of New England defense is their secondary. I bet you would have a rookie behind a suspect o-line throwing into the teeth of that defense and abandon the run. And when Lynn and Steichen game plan does not match up with your ideas, immediately claim it's poor coaching.
              And
              ​​​​​You also will only grade the result. Which is grabage take every damn time. Grade each players execution on each play. If Pipkins gets beat the moment Hebert snaps the damn ball. That not poor coaching. That is a sophomore from sammy small school making mistakes during on the job training.
              Who has it better than us?

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              • Critty
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                Originally posted by jamrock View Post
                Colin Cowherd just did a segment on the Chargers. He said there is no way the Chargers should be underdogs at home to NE. Went thru key roster pieces on both teams. Cam only has 4 td passes this season?

                he then said the nfl is a coaches league and the worst sin an nfl team can make is to waste a stud qb on a rookie deal. Don’t roll the dice on a coordinator. Go get a proven head coach.
                Colin Cowherd also said Joe Burrow was not a good QB prospect.

                And he said Dak Prescott should be a back up Tight end.

                He also said Browns were better than Ravens last year.
                Browns went 6-10 and Ravens went 14-2.
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                ​​​​​​He has many failed takes. And that's fine. Its just opinions.
                Who has it better than us?

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                • Originally posted by ghost View Post




                  I don't see eye-to-eye with this. I'm a firm believer in the AJ Smith axoim 'Past production is the best indicator of future production.'

                  Right now, the best young minds are in the AFC at offensive coordinators. They've already won playoff seeds. You'll see them all when the playoffs roll around. AFC is going to win the Super Bowl too. Better coaching in the AFC.
                  Cowherd is exactly right about wasting the years of a QB on a rookie deal. That is a huge reason why Lynn must go in addition to Lynn being totally inept at game planning and in game decisions.

                  However, proven head coaches may not be readily available for us to hire.

                  And which AFC OCs are you talking about? While just about anyone with a pulse would be better than Lynn, my concern is that any new head coach needs to understand that our offensive personnel dictates that we should have a run/pass ratio that heavily favors the passing game. I do not know if I can say that about the leading head coaching candidates among the AFC OCs.

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                  • Originally posted by Critty View Post

                    Colin Cowherd also said Joe Burrow was not a good QB prospect.

                    And he said Dak Prescott should be a back up Tight end.

                    He also said Browns were better than Ravens last year.
                    Browns went 6-10 and Ravens went 14-2.
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                    ​​​​​​He has many failed takes. And that's fine. Its just opinions.
                    Weren't you the one that stated that Burrow was some sort of great QB prospect that we should trade multiple first round draft picks to select?

                    The Bengals used the #1 overall pick to select Burrow. Has Burrow fully justified the use of that draft pick so far? Granted, he is likely to improve, but so far I would have to say the answer to that is "no", especially based on what Herbert has done this season by comparison.

                    Burrow finished the season with a QB rating of 89.8. That is currently good for 24th in the NFL. He is ranked behind such legendary QBs as Baker Mayfield and Gardner Minshew and one spot ahead of Nick Mullens. Herbert has thoroughly outperformed him and is on pace to win Offensive Rookie of the Year.

                    While I expect Burrow to improve and prove Cowherd wrong in terms of being a good NFL QB, Burrow is not there yet and to the extent you suggested that Burrow warranted the use of multiple first round picks, you were every bit as wrong as Cowherd and maybe more wrong. Burrow certainly is nowhere close to establishing himself as some sort of great once in generation type prospect.

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                    • Eurobolt
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                      Originally posted by Critty View Post

                      Colin Cowherd also said Joe Burrow was not a good QB prospect.

                      And he said Dak Prescott should be a back up Tight end.

                      He also said Browns were better than Ravens last year.
                      Browns went 6-10 and Ravens went 14-2.
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                      ​​​​​​He has many failed takes. And that's fine. Its just opinions.
                      Yet none of them is even close to epic fail quoted below:

                      "A.Lynn is a better HC than Belicheat" - Critty"

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                      • jamrock
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                        Originally posted by Critty View Post
                        Wow. Just an amazing amount of ignorance in regard to the roster and coaching by some posters here.
                        You don't even know that being committed to running the damn ball and checking down to Ekeler vs Patriots makes tons of sense. The strength of New England defense is their secondary. I bet you would have a rookie behind a suspect o-line throwing into the teeth of that defense and abandon the run. And when Lynn and Steichen game plan does not match up with your ideas, immediately claim it's poor coaching.
                        And
                        ​​​​​You also will only grade the result. Which is grabage take every damn time. Grade each players execution on each play. If Pipkins gets beat the moment Hebert snaps the damn ball. That not poor coaching. That is a sophomore from sammy small school making mistakes during on the job training.
                        this is a Patriots team we should beat. I agree that their secondary is their strength. Let’s see how the Chargers game plan for this and attack the Patriots d. On defense, we will have to contain Cam as a runner and stop Sony and that other character. They should be stacking the box and spying Cam.

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                        • Bolt4Knob
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                          Originally posted by jamrock View Post
                          Colin Cowherd just did a segment on the Chargers. He said there is no way the Chargers should be underdogs at home to NE. Went thru key roster pieces on both teams. Cam only has 4 td passes this season?

                          he then said the nfl is a coaches league and the worst sin an nfl team can make is to waste a stud qb on a rookie deal. Don’t roll the dice on a coordinator. Go get a proven head coach.
                          I agree on both things.

                          Bosa has five more years
                          Allen has I think four, maybe three
                          Herbert 4 more years
                          Ekeler three more years
                          Derwin is tough but if they pick up his option - at least two

                          there are pieces in place with a thought out draft and offseason strategy (improve ST with coach and maybe a couple low cost veterans; fortify the OL, add Edge and CB)

                          Starts with the right head coach and yes, prefer somebody who has been there at least once to wet the bed and will have a better understanding of what it takes to win not tomorrow. today!

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