POLL: Who Should Be The Chargers' Next Head Coach?

[21&500]

You have a decision to make and have two choices. It’s a decision you have made before. One path has been successful for you in the past. The other path has NEVER been successful for you in the past. Which path do you take?

Since we have no rings you could argue no path has been successful for us.
even without the argument, it’s very much too simplistic to determine a causal influence
just mo

[Bolt4Knob]

I don’t disagree, I think you’ve made your point clear on several posts, and I still think JMcD would make a fine choice beyond just his success as a HC.
what I think it’s even more simplistic is looking at the Chargers head coaching hirings of what has “worked” and “not worked”
I think it’s much more complicated than that as well, there was literally hundreds of different circumstances that contributed to their successes and failures
imo there is nothing inherently wrong with the logic of hiring people who have relevant experience to do a job they’ve never done before, it’s not ideal but you shouldn’t take points away from a guy BECAUSE they’re a career coordinator, there is still a very good reason why most clubs will hire offensive coordinators for HC position and it’s not because they’re basing their decision on a handful of hiring choices made throughout decades. It’s just not as relevant as you think imho.

I agree with that. And yes I am too much in "do not hire a first timer coach" . But I can only go by the Chargers. Now if this were the Steelers (three head coaches in 50 years) - or the Packers with LaFleur (though Ray Rhoades didn't do great there) - or maybe a more solid organization from the top - sure, maybe the Chargers can go down that road again

But for the Chargers only - the data is pretty clear.

Now - if we are looking at first time head coaches and comparing a resume of say Zimmer back before he was hired by MN, or Arians, or Dave Toub compared to say Kellen Moore, Joe Brady and the DC from the Rams - even though Zimmer and Arians had zero HC experience - they had a lot of NFL experience, like Toub would. Even a guy like Fangio - if dismissed - hard to say but Elway has never given him a QB like Herbert to work with - well he is a tough one.

My big thing - from the small Chargers perspective - I would look at history

[Boltjolt]

Sure you can go with that route. It’s definitely the more conservative and safer route. But.....

At the end of the day, your past failures don't guarantee future failures. Might as well hire the best guy for the job

There lies the problem. Who decides that? lol, its all over the place here so its subjective. Also applies the other way to first time HCs and new OCs, etc.

[ghost]

SIChiefs beat is kinda freaked out by the prospect of Eric Bieniemy & Justin Herbert in the AFC West.

He should be.

[Xenos]

There lies the problem. Who decides that? lol, its all over the place here so its subjective. Also applies the other way to first time HCs and new OCs, etc.

Ultimately it’s all about finding the right requisites. How aggressive is the coach for example? McCoy, Marty, Lynn, and even Norv were more conservative. They were all playing not to lose. If the FO finds someone, retread or first timer, that can break that trend then I consider it a win.

[gzubeck]

Ultimately it’s all about finding the right requisites. How aggressive is the coach for example? McCoy, Marty, Lynn, and even Norv were more conservative. They were all playing not to lose. If the FO finds someone, retread or first timer, that can break that trend then I consider it a win.

Petal to the Metal, Baby! LOL!

:Beer1:

[Bolt4Knob]

Petal to the Metal, Baby! LOL!

:Beer1:

Cowherd today suggesting Brian Kelly to the Chargers
(i don't hate it)

[Silversurfer]

Yup

[Boltjolt]

SIChiefs beat is kinda freaked out by the prospect of Eric Bieniemy & Justin Herbert in the AFC West.

He should be.

He don't sound worried predicting still winning the West yearly. Reid still calls the plays.

[beachcomber]

Ultimately it’s all about finding the right requisites. How aggressive is the coach for example? McCoy, Marty, Lynn, and even Norv were more conservative. They were all playing not to lose. If the FO finds someone, retread or first timer, that can break that trend then I consider it a win.

from what I can tell by listening to the guy, think one of the key ingredients to his success, and what bodes well for his future success, is that he doesn't really have a system per se, and rather his philosophy or scheme if you want to call it that, is that he finds out what his players are good at, and that's what he runs, and obviously runs it very well.... so his "scheme" is gonna adapt and change.

[Bolt4Knob]

Yup

One thing I like about Kelly over maybe some other names that are mentioned from college (Lincoln Riley for one as he went from OC to HC at a top 10 program) -- Kelly has worked his way up. Grand Union or something like that, to Western/Central/Eastern Michigan to Cincinnati to Notre Dame. He should have a pretty good idea of coaching, strategy, different types of offenses, defenses, etc.

I think thats why a guy like Matt Campbell is intriguing - worked his way from smaller schools, to Toledo to now Iowa State.

[21&500]

If we give Telesco his man crush in Kelley we better be ready to move off both if it fails in a few years.
even if Telesco didn’t pick mccoy or lynn.