Originally posted by AK47
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Rashawn Slater, Franchise LT - Discussion
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Remember, Ingram had ZERO sacks last year...he does bring some pressure at times, I'll give him that, but he just can't close the gap between pressure and sack...and he even had Bosa opposite him, so no excuses...he's getting old and has apparently lost a step...or two...or...
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Since when were sacks important to Bradley? He wouldn't allow the DEs to fire off and go after the QB, they had to play the run first. Because the rest of the D was standing on the goal line.Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Remember, Ingram had ZERO sacks last year...he does bring some pressure at times, I'll give him that, but he just can't close the gap between pressure and sack...and he even had Bosa opposite him, so no excuses...he's getting old and has apparently lost a step...or two...or...Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
Let’s win one for Mack.
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Last year Ingram came in out of shape it seemed. He certainly looked heavier than he had been in years, which was no doubt disappointing. Overall though, he has otherwise been solid and reliable over the last several years of so. I figured he would be highly motivated this year playing for a potential multi-year contract deal and to show that he is still relevant.Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Remember, Ingram had ZERO sacks last year...he does bring some pressure at times, I'll give him that, but he just can't close the gap between pressure and sack...and he even had Bosa opposite him, so no excuses...he's getting old and has apparently lost a step...or two...or...
I also understand the resentment that he would come into camp last year not in better shape, especially considering his salary last year.
I have no problem eating crow over Darrisaw who I really liked before the draft. It appears to be the correct move by Telesco now to have grabbed Slater at 13 I believe, instead of trading down like the Vikings to acquire Darrisaw and additional picks. Getting a very solid LT trumps all of those additional picks the Vikings got.. I am almost certain that the Vikings would not have passed on Slater if he had still been available.
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I believe he'll come in fresh as a situational pass rusher.......for a team that lead the NFL in team sacks the past 4 years now.Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Remember, Ingram had ZERO sacks last year...he does bring some pressure at times, I'll give him that, but he just can't close the gap between pressure and sack...and he even had Bosa opposite him, so no excuses...he's getting old and has apparently lost a step...or two...or...
Food for thought: The Rams were in the top 5 in team sacks the past 2 seasons. Staley!!!
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Sacks statistics fluctuate a lot from year to year. Even among HOF caliber players. They are a really, really poor way to judge pass rush.
Pressure is a far better measure of what player is really effective.
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Especially in this era of mobile QBs.Originally posted by Steve View PostSacks statistics fluctuate a lot from year to year. Even among HOF caliber players. They are a really, really poor way to judge pass rush.
Pressure is a far better measure of what player is really effective.
There has to be some containment.Boze...Center of Attention
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It sucks because it is an individual stat for a team activity. There is a lot that goes into getting the QB down on the ground, and while it is easy to give credit to the guy who actually gets the tackle, everyone has to do their job to give the pass rusher the chance to get the QB.
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First thing that comes to mind is Russell Wilson. Sacked 394 times. Ciara must be jealous.Originally posted by FoutsFan View PostOne thing that happens with mobile QB's is the O line blocks the rusher right into the QB for the sack because the QB is not where he is supposed to be.
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For a long time the greatest running QB of all time, Randall Cunningham held the record for being sacked most in a season. He is high on the all time list as well.Originally posted by AK47 View Post
First thing that comes to mind is Russell Wilson. Sacked 394 times. Ciara must be jealous.
All time sacked Leaders
Brett Favre+ 525 1991-2010 4TM Tom Brady 521 2000-2020 2TM John Elway+ 516 1983-1998 den Ben Roethlisberger 516 2004-2020 pit Dave Krieg 494 1980-1998 6TM Randall Cunningham 484 1985-2001 4TM Phil Simms 477 1979-1993 nyg Aaron Rodgers 468 2005-2020 gn
There are a lot of very mobile QB's on that list.
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There’s a lot of guys who were starters for more than 15 years, too.Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post
For a long time the greatest running QB of all time, Randall Cunningham held the record for being sacked most in a season. He is high on the all time list as well.
All time sacked Leaders
Brett Favre+ 525 1991-2010 4TM Tom Brady 521 2000-2020 2TM John Elway+ 516 1983-1998 den Ben Roethlisberger 516 2004-2020 pit Dave Krieg 494 1980-1998 6TM Randall Cunningham 484 1985-2001 4TM Phil Simms 477 1979-1993 nyg Aaron Rodgers 468 2005-2020 gn
There are a lot of very mobile QB's on that list.Justin Herbert is Elite. Ride or Die ...​
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