Get Mike Williams Signed To a New Contract Now

[Boltx]

It's a tough situation.

He's still young, talented, and (knock on wood) seems to be over the major injury issues.

If you let him walk, you're also staring at the prospect of a suddenly rapid aging KA who now also seems to have stone hands. The WR corps is decimated overnight.

I think you have to keep him, even if it means overpaying a little bit.

[jubei]

where's the "I cant believe Tyron Johnson was cut?" talks? MW has had games where he was completely silent this year. For a lot of yesterday's game he was pretty quiet. But when it came to crunch time you saw Herbert looking for MW and he made some clutch catches. I'm in the air regarding signing him. If he wants top 5 money then I cant agree with that, but maybe top 10-12 I can do.

[WindsorUK]

Money has to be right.
If all we do at WR this off season is bring back MW, we're exactly where we're at RIGHT NOW....which isn't good enough.
There's got to be enough money to bring in another WR who can make plays in the Renfrow/Amendola mode.
We won't have the talent in the TE room next year( I suspect Parham, Anderson, McKitty, and possibly even Kampmoyer, fill out the roster) so we need to have another threat over the middle, on the slant routes.
MW stayed healthy this year because BS used him differently. Hopefully his injury issues are a thing of the past.

[richpjr]

Lol, not laughing at you because I agree with you,... but people here can't make up their minds about MW. If he drops a pass he is a bum, not worth the money, let him test FA'cy, yada,yada,yada.

When he shines.....we need to sign him lol.

Now I'm waiting for the posters to say he doesn't shine enough. Well with Keenan being game planned for and doubled up MW did plenty yesterday.

Sometimes the game plan doesn't always revolve around Keenan, that's why it's called a game plan.

MW stats = 76 receptions, 1146 yards, 9 TDs, 15 YPC

The reaction is kind of funny. If we can get him resigned to a reasonable contract (i.e. not top 10 WR money) I am all for it. But there always seems to be a team willing to overpay so do we let him walk, creating another hole on the roster or pay him more than he might be worth? He does make a fair amount of clutch catches.

[Boltjolt]

I have to say, it would be a mistake to let Mike Williams walk this off season. He is the most clutch WR on the roster and most capable when the game is on the line and you absolutely have to move the ball or convert a 1st down. He was epic in the final two drives in regulation, converting 1st downs again and again, he caught the game tying TD with seconds left, and he kept the Chargers alive in OT with a 47 yd catch and run on 1st down, to put Hopkins in position to tie it.

Please don't let Williams go to another team and become a standout, like AP and HH in New England, or let him come back to haunt us like the former Chargers on the Raiders defense did last night.

Lol, not laughing at you because I agree with you,... but people here can't make up their minds about MW. If he drops a pass he is a bum, not worth the money, let him test FA'cy, yada,yada,yada.

When he shines.....we need to sign him lol.

Now I'm waiting for the posters to say he doesn't shine enough. Well with Keenan being game planned for and doubled up MW did plenty yesterday.

Sometimes the game plan doesn't always revolve around Keenan, that's why it's called a game plan.

MW stats = 76 receptions, 1146 yards(team high), 9 TDs, 15 YPC

[Velo]

I have to say, it would be a mistake to let Mike Williams walk this off season. He is the most clutch WR on the roster and most capable when the game is on the line and you absolutely have to move the ball or convert a 1st down. He was epic in the final two drives in regulation, converting 1st downs again and again, he caught the game tying TD with seconds left, and he kept the Chargers alive in OT with a 47 yd catch and run on 1st down, to put Hopkins in position to tie it.

Please don't let Williams go to another team and become a standout, like AP and HH in New England, or let him come back to haunt us like the former Chargers on the Raiders defense did last night.

[NoMoreChillies]

I see Allen differently than you do. Right now, he has just enough speed that, when combined with his great route running and quick get off on the snap, he is a great player. But this is not the Biletnikoff 1970s NFL and some LBs can already run with Allen in terms of speed. So, if he loses just a little more speed as he ages, will his other traits be able to compensate as they have thus far in his career?

I see a parallel with our former CB, Brandon Flowers. Flowers had an elite 10 yard split of 1.47, but his top end speed was not so great, resulting in a 4.55 40 even with the lightning fast 10 yard split. For years, Flowers was a very good CB. But in the end, the quickness could not make up for the lack of speed when he lost a step. When it came to speed, Flowers just did not have that much to spare.

I think it could be that way with Allen a few years from now. At some point, maybe he is so slow that he is no longer that effective even with the great get off and superior route running. And maybe he loses a little of his elite early quickness if/when he loses a step.

Right now, Allen is signed through his age 32 season. If he shows any sign of slowing down, I would rather let some other team sign him to a big contract for his age 33 and beyond seasons and take a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick in return, assuming that is where the free agency market places Allen's value as I could see at least one team signing a big name like Allen based upon his reputation.

I think Allen is very different than Gates, who used his big body and basketball positioning techniques to help create safe areas for passes from Rivers. If the receiver is so big that he can box out the defender, that is different than a WR that relies on initial quickness and strong route running.

I would be very careful about signing Allen to any further contracts. I would say no 3 or 4 year deals at a minimum and no big contracts with huge guaranteed money.

Kinda agree here. If i had to chose

I would let Slayer go and sign Mdub. Youth speed etc

[Boltjolt]

Save the money for resigning Herbert after year 3. If your a top 5 QB you are morally obligated to renegotiate the contract after year 3. Others on here have said we have him locked up through his 4th season. I say bullshit...why? Because it will be insulting to have two $20 million dollars receivers who are just very good and pissing all over Herbert's pay scale. I have no problem paying Mike Williams $15 mil a year but if he wants top dollar I'd let him walk. He's been saving himself up until he gets his big payday so there is that problem.

:coffee:

Saving himself? This is his first season in an offense where he gets more targets and featured more while sacrificing his body for those jump balls the last 4 years.
He only needs 12 more targets to set a new career high and 4 more receptions for a new career high.

I think they will try and resign him. We have cheap TEs and every WR after those two are cheap. If he resigns elsewhere, there is a possibility we try and sign another WR.

[ghost]

Save the money for resigning Herbert after year 3. If your a top 5 QB you are morally obligated to renegotiate the contract after year 3. Others on here have said we have him locked up through his 4th season. I say bullshit...why? Because it will be insulting to have two $20 million dollars receivers who are just very good and pissing all over Herbert's pay scale. I have no problem paying Mike Williams $15 mil a year but if he wants top dollar I'd let him walk. He's been saving himself up until he gets his big payday so there is that problem.

:coffee:

I am all for getting Mike Will a healthy raise, but past that it gets complicated. And we still don't know what Mike wants. I want to hear it from Mikey.

[gzubeck]

That logic is all sound and more than acceptable and Ed McGuire is certainly no fool and been great with the cap. My concern/fear begins and ends with two $20 million dollar receivers on the roster, viewed through my perspective on the total percentage of the pie.

I've two cases in which the Chargers were insufficiently pleased with the player's performance in their first contract and chose to move on rather than re-sign them: Drew Brees & Vincent Jackson, and I was here for both. This reminds me of both. We can discuss the merits of what we believe to be the correct behavior but in the end, I am of the opinion, Dean will have the final say. Whether Dean takes a conservative stance, or he's progressive and re-signs Mike Will, is the wait-and-see proposition of the off-season.

Save the money for resigning Herbert after year 3. If your a top 5 QB you are morally obligated to renegotiate the contract after year 3. Others on here have said we have him locked up through his 4th season. I say bullshit...why? Because it will be insulting to have two $20 million dollars receivers who are just very good and pissing all over Herbert's pay scale. I have no problem paying Mike Williams $15 mil a year but if he wants top dollar I'd let him walk. He's been saving himself up until he gets his big payday so there is that problem.

:coffee:

This one says 4.49 and 4.5 on two attempts but whichever, at his size that pretty fast imo,.... and has video of his runs. Looks like he is cruising lol.
I believe Vince Jackson also ran a 4.5.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/s...tigers-pro-day

Jackson was barely faster at 4.46.

I'd like to see Allen do what Gates did, and play his entire career for the Chargers. He is 29 this year, but Allen is not the type of player who relies on youthful attributes - mainly speed - to be successful. He plays a cerebral game, and that kind of WR generally have longer careers.

I see Allen differently than you do. Right now, he has just enough speed that, when combined with his great route running and quick get off on the snap, he is a great player. But this is not the Biletnikoff 1970s NFL and some LBs can already run with Allen in terms of speed. So, if he loses just a little more speed as he ages, will his other traits be able to compensate as they have thus far in his career?

I see a parallel with our former CB, Brandon Flowers. Flowers had an elite 10 yard split of 1.47, but his top end speed was not so great, resulting in a 4.55 40 even with the lightning fast 10 yard split. For years, Flowers was a very good CB. But in the end, the quickness could not make up for the lack of speed when he lost a step. When it came to speed, Flowers just did not have that much to spare.

I think it could be that way with Allen a few years from now. At some point, maybe he is so slow that he is no longer that effective even with the great get off and superior route running. And maybe he loses a little of his elite early quickness if/when he loses a step.

Right now, Allen is signed through his age 32 season. If he shows any sign of slowing down, I would rather let some other team sign him to a big contract for his age 33 and beyond seasons and take a 3rd or 4th round compensatory pick in return, assuming that is where the free agency market places Allen's value as I could see at least one team signing a big name like Allen based upon his reputation.

I think Allen is very different than Gates, who used his big body and basketball positioning techniques to help create safe areas for passes from Rivers. If the receiver is so big that he can box out the defender, that is different than a WR that relies on initial quickness and strong route running.

I would be very careful about signing Allen to any further contracts. I would say no 3 or 4 year deals at a minimum and no big contracts with huge guaranteed money.