2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

[Topcat]

I™m praying for a jumbo package of Matlock at FB and 330# Jerrod Clark (Horvath) at RB on short yardage plays. Or do what the Eagles did and just pushed Herbert forward by using Matlock and Clark (Horvath).

There...fixed it for 'ya!

[Fouts2herbert]

I’m praying for a jumbo package of Matlock at FB and Horvath at RB on short yardage plays. Or do what the Eagles did and just pushed Herbert forward by using Matlock and Horvath.

last year they had ekeler take the snap directly from center during the Miami game which I thought "why haven't seen this more during the year on short yardage?

[richpjr]

I hope so. Even though Lombardi called a fair amount of RPOs it felt like Herbert never called his own number, even when it was wide open for him. If he does that even once a game, when it is really safe and he can run out of bounds, it will help open up the run game.

TG

He ran a bit more in 21 when he wasn’t dealing with his ribs. I do agree with dmac about not wanting him to turn into a running QB, but there are occasions where he could scramble for some yards and go out of bounds/down - something to make the D think about. I think back to the Sunday night game against the Steelers and how he killed them running.

[Velo]

He ran a bit more in 21 when he wasn’t dealing with his ribs. I do agree with dmac about not wanting him to turn into a running QB, but there are occasions where he could scramble for some yards and go out of bounds/down - something to make the D think about. I think back to the Sunday night game against the Steelers and how he killed them running.

The only college game I saw of Herbert was the 2020 Rose Bowl. He ran for 3 TDs, including one 30 yarder. His passing stats for that game were not that impressive. When we drafted him, I thought the most dangerous element to his game was going to be his running ability and that his passing game would have to be developed. I thought of him as a QB like Colin Kaepernick. Big, tall and athletic with a big time arm but was not the most polished passer but who could devastate a defense with his legs. The run game was a big part of Herbert's college game. I was kind of shocked when he showed in his first few games as a rookie that he was and NFL ready passer. I think Herbert could elevate his overall game by running a bit more, like he did in college. When he does run, he usually is very cautious about taking a hit, sliding well short of contact on most occasions. It would really help keep defenses off-balance if he became more of a run threat, like Josh Allen.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/28407477/justin-herbert-leads-oregon-rose-bowl-win-3-rushing-tds

[charger1_sj]

The only college game I saw of Herbert was the 2020 Rose Bowl. He ran for 3 TDs, including one 30 yarder. His passing stats for that game were not that impressive. When we drafted him, I thought the most dangerous element to his game was going to be his running ability and that his passing game would have to be developed. I thought of him as a QB like Colin Kaepernick. Big, tall and athletic with a big time arm but was not the most polished passer but who could devastate a defense with his legs. The run game was a big part of Herbert's college game. I was kind of shocked when he showed in his first few games as a rookie that he was and NFL ready passer. I think Herbert could elevate his overall game by running a bit more, like he did in college. When he does run, he usually is very cautious about taking a hit, sliding well short of contact on most occasions. It would really help keep defenses off-balance if he became more of a run threat, like Josh Allen.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-3-rushing-tds

FYI, Josh Allen does not want to run anymore. Wants some fundamental change to the Bills offense.

In general designing plays for your QB to run is a very bad idea in my opinion. Having a mobile QB that can avoid sacks and
make runs when needed is the best course of action.

[WindsorUK]

No reason( if healthy!) JH can't run for a few first downs every game. Keep the D honest.
And then( hopefully!) Kellen Moore dials up the howitzer!
Frightnen Lightnen baby!
Time to re-visit our Air Coryell days.

[chargeroo]

The only college game I saw of Herbert was the 2020 Rose Bowl. He ran for 3 TDs, including one 30 yarder. His passing stats for that game were not that impressive. When we drafted him, I thought the most dangerous element to his game was going to be his running ability and that his passing game would have to be developed. I thought of him as a QB like Colin Kaepernick. Big, tall and athletic with a big time arm but was not the most polished passer but who could devastate a defense with his legs. The run game was a big part of Herbert's college game. I was kind of shocked when he showed in his first few games as a rookie that he was and NFL ready passer. I think Herbert could elevate his overall game by running a bit more, like he did in college. When he does run, he usually is very cautious about taking a hit, sliding well short of contact on most occasions. It would really help keep defenses off-balance if he became more of a run threat, like Josh Allen.

https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...-3-rushing-tds

I'm a Ducks fan. I watch every game and here's what I remember about Herbert's time in Eugene.

The Ducks offense has QB runs woven into the game plans but on passing plays, Herbert was pass first and he only ran when the pressure forced it. In that Rose Bowl game the Wisconsin pass rush was pretty strong and pretty constant so he ran more.

His footwork was kind of stumblebum, so his accuracy was below average. But, by the time he stepped on the field as a Charger, his footwork was way better and so was his accuracy. Someone in the Chargers organization coached him up on the footwork. He's such a willing worker that I bet he's going to get even better. We got lucky that Miami liked Tua.

[Velo]

His footwork was kind of stumblebum, so his accuracy was below average. But, by the time he stepped on the field as a Charger, his footwork was way better and so was his accuracy. Someone in the Chargers organization coached him up on the footwork.

Shane Steichen and Pep Hamilton. Maybe the best OC/QBC combo an NFL rookie QB could have today.

[dmac_bolt]

I'm a Ducks fan. I watch every game and here's what I remember about Herbert's time in Eugene.

The Ducks offense has QB runs woven into the game plans but on passing plays, Herbert was pass first and he only ran when the pressure forced it. In that Rose Bowl game the Wisconsin pass rush was pretty strong and pretty constant so he ran more.

His footwork was kind of stumblebum, so his accuracy was below average. But, by the time he stepped on the field as a Charger, his footwork was way better and so was his accuracy. Someone in the Chargers organization coached him up on the footwork. He's such a willing worker that I bet he's going to get even better. We got lucky that Miami liked Tua.

I recall he got some tutoring and showed up at the combine with improved footwork already, no doubt got more improvement via Coach Hamilton before he entered his first game with bolts on.

That big QB taken third this year, Anderson, I think could be the exact same story. howitzer arm, big strong and can run though not a “runner”, but he wasn’t as accurate as scouts want. I saw a few breakdowns of film by “experts” that saw some fixable mechanics and footwork errors were causing his inaccurate throws. Fix that and he’s the top prospect by far imo.

[chargeroo]

I recall he got some tutoring and showed up at the combine with improved footwork already, no doubt got more improvement via Coach Hamilton before he entered his first game with bolts on.

That big QB taken third this year, Anderson, I think could be the exact same story. howitzer arm, big strong and can run though not a “runner”, but he wasn’t as accurate as scouts want. I saw a few breakdowns of film by “experts” that saw some fixable mechanics and footwork errors were causing his inaccurate throws. Fix that and he’s the top prospect by far imo.

Anderson is not a QB - you got the name wrong.

[Topcat]

I hope so. Even though Lombardi called a fair amount of RPOs it felt like Herbert never called his own number, even when it was wide open for him. If he does that even once a game, when it is really safe and he can run out of bounds, it will help open up the run game.

TG

Yep...LT ran out of bounds many times, which probably helped extend his career by avoiding those big hits...Herbie can do the same, or at least do the old baseball slide well short of the tacklers...

[Velo]

Anderson is not a QB - you got the name wrong.

He meant Anthony Richardson I think.