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[sonorajim]

Now put 2018 in

Why? Staley's Chargers have played 2021- 2022.

[jamrock]

Why? Staley's Chargers have played 2021- 2022.

then just include 2021 and 2022 in the "progression" analysis

[sonorajim]

then just include 2021 and 2022 in the "progression" analysis

2020 would show where they were most recently pre-Staley

[Air Coryell]

Prediction Noted.
We play 17 games vs NFL teams who have to play us.
My way premature guess : 11 - 6 and a playoff win.
We continue to improve.

Hope so; but really doubt it.
Problem is TT has invested too much cap in positions that do not warrant it. We should have invested that money in trenches. That is how you win on the NFL (see KC). Now we will be paying JH $50M a year (which is a good problem to have). With our roster and coaches we are avg at best. TT went all in last year and wiffed. Expect a new GM to do a major redo in 2024 (JC, DJ, Bosa, MW will need to reduce their cap numbers or will be gone). Unless Spanos let's it ride again.

[dmac_bolt]

Just say you don't understand what happened with that situation. I get it not many people fully understand it, or want to understand it. This wasn't just missing a cap deadline.

I am not discounting the gambling issue but either one of these was a bridge too far. He did both.

Just say you’re still so mad about the SB that you will cling to the false theory that he was forced to sell his team because of cap violations. Its just not true. That would be a GM sanction, team fines, and/or draft picks lost; SF isn’t the only team to violate cap rules, never has any owner been forced to sell.

Minnesota

https://fansided.com/2021/03/20/vikings-salary-cap-punishment-reaction-explained/

Cowboys & Skins

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/13/sports/football/nfl-strips-cowboys-and-redskins-of-salary-cap-room.html

49’ers
https://www.49erswebzone.com/commentary/25-49ers-slapped-cap-violations-veterans-ponder-their-future/

Broncos
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2008/10/01/davis-was-referring-to-broncos-cap-violations/


they kicked DeBartolo out of the league because he was a convicted gambling bribe felon. Not the “cap violation” that occurred a full 6 years earlier.

[FoutsFan]

If anybody wants to know the real story. Here is the link.
https://www.nytimes.com/1995/01/08/m...slary-cap.html

Complete BS.

Do not ever quote the NY Times as a source. It only reflects poorly on you.

[21&500]

:mybrainhurts:

[charger1_sj]

Complete BS.

Do not ever quote the NY Times as a source. It only reflects poorly on you.

They are the gold standard. Now if you go to their opinion pieces it's a different story.
FYI, this article wasn't an opinion. It's rooted in facts and backed up by various other sources.
Give me the story that says DeBartolo paid money under the table.
Give me the story that says DeBartolo was kicked out of the NFL and forced to sell because
of cap violation. You can't because there is none.

[chargeroo]

NY Times is not trustworthy, IMO. I'll have to find some other sources that agree with them before I'd ever believe them. But then, who cares all these years later.

[dmac_bolt]

Debartolo still denies the NFL forced him out in 1999. He says it was a business / family decision that he would part ways and cede the team to his sister. He was suspended by the NFL for a year in ‘98 due to his casino bribe case, he maintains he could have been reinstated but decided on his own to walk away.

The ‘94 SB salary cap shibboleth was much earlier and no, NFL wasn’t chasing him down a half decade later due to a cap violation by team front office personnel who actually did the clever accounting.

[charger1_sj]

NY Times is not trustworthy, IMO. I'll have to find some other sources that agree with them before I'd ever believe them. But then, who cares all these years later.

They are trust worthy, unless it's about politics. When it comes to politics there are no trust worthy sources.
And their story has been collaborated. There have interviews with Carmen Policy himself and clearly has explained
how they got around the cap. Read the story. They have specific example on specific players and what they did.

Where are the stories contrary? There aren't any. Just a bunch of rumors floating around by jealous fans and
sport fanatics.

[Boltjolt]

NY Times is not trustworthy, IMO. I'll have to find some other sources that agree with them before I'd ever believe them. But then, who cares all these years later.

Exactly what I was thinking. I don't care about the Niners woes. They cheated and got caught. They also have rings, we don't.

Even Raiders fans get to boast of rings, even if it were before they were born lol..