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[Formula 21]

Arm strength is the easiest of the QB talents - you either were born with the ability (or not). Accuracy and (above all) decision making are far more important. The NFL is littered with guys who could throw the ball 60 yards 'with a flick of the wrist', and yet failed to be successful - anyone remember Ed Luther? We already know Richardson's a great athlete. We knew that last year in college. Can he read defenses, make good (quick) decisions, and deliver the ball on time and accurately?

Hopefully Lance has been smart with his money . . . . . . . . .

Richardson is better than a great athlete, he’s a stunningly great athlete. I don’t know if he’ll ever be a great qb, but it’s worth a try to see if they can develop him. Great athletes start with a higher ceiling and his is in the clouds. I wouldn’t have touched Lamar Jackson, then he wins MVP. You never know how things will turn out.

[Lefty2SLO]

Richardson is better than a great athlete, he’s a stunningly great athlete. I don’t know if he’ll ever be a great qb, but it’s worth a try to see if they can develop him. Great athletes start with a higher ceiling and his is in the clouds. I wouldn’t have touched Lamar Jackson, then he wins MVP. You never know how things will turn out.

True . . . . . . . he could end up being great, but we've all seen strong armed guys get anointed as the next 'great one' and then drop out of sight. Ryan Leaf had a great arm - much better than Peyton Manning - how'd that work out. NFL QB's have to have at least decent arm strength, but after that it's all above the shoulders stuff.

That's what makes Herbert so special. He has all the physical tools (and then some), but he's also got a superior work ethic and smarts . . . . . . . the sky really is the limit for him - if the damn organization will just GTFO of the way . . . . . . . .

[dmac_bolt]

Richardson feels like Akili Smith to me . . . . . . . . . . we'll see. If he fails at QB he can always play RB . . . .

We’ll see. I say give him a year and you’ll be wrong but who knows.

[dmac_bolt]

True . . . . . . . he could end up being great, but we've all seen strong armed guys get anointed as the next 'great one' and then drop out of sight. Ryan Leaf had a great arm - much better than Peyton Manning - how'd that work out. NFL QB's have to have at least decent arm strength, but after that it's all above the shoulders stuff.

That's what makes Herbert so special. He has all the physical tools (and then some), but he's also got a superior work ethic and smarts . . . . . . . the sky really is the limit for him - if the damn organization will just GTFO of the way . . . . . . . .

Ryan Leaf suffered manic depression and addiction(s). he’s not a good comparison to most-to-all QBs, except maybe Schlicter. Richardson is not just a good athlete, as F21 noted, he’s off the charts more gifted than typical “strong arm” QBs your experience tells you toe be cautious of. I personally don’t see a great comparison to Akili Smith other than they both had very limited experience starting in college.

It’s a gamble, i think its a good one but needs some time and investment by the team.

[Lefty2SLO]

We’ll see. I say give him a year and you’ll be wrong but who knows.

He's being groomed to start immediately. IMO that's a mistake for a QB in his position. I know Indy doesn't have much at QB, but it's a risky proposition. He's going to be slow reading defenses and going thru his progressions - I hope he's as good a runner at the NFL level as he was in college . . . . . . . he'll need to be.

And you're correct; no-one knows for sure if he'll be good (or not), but we've all seen this movie before, and it usually doesn't end well . . . .

[Lefty2SLO]

Ryan Leaf suffered manic depression and addiction(s). he’s not a good comparison to most-to-all QBs, except maybe Schlicter. Richardson is not just a good athlete, as F21 noted, he’s off the charts more gifted than typical “strong arm” QBs your experience tells you toe be cautious of. I personally don’t see a great comparison to Akili Smith other than they both had very limited experience starting in college.

It’s a gamble, i think its a good one but needs some time and investment by the team.

The comparisons to Smith and Leaf were for arm strength only. Not for their mental makeup.

The point was that a strong arm is far from a guarantee that that individual will be a good QB. IMO he was a big risk as a 1st rounder, and Indy will make it even riskier if they start him right away.

[Formula 21]

The comparisons to Smith and Leaf were for arm strength only. Not for their mental makeup.

The point was that a strong arm is far from a guarantee that that individual will be a good QB. IMO he was a big risk as a 1st rounder, and Indy will make it even riskier if they start him right away.

Blowing a first is not a franchise killer. All teams do it occasionally.

[Lefty2SLO]

Blowing a first is not a franchise killer. All teams do it occasionally.

Not saying that it would be (a franchise killer), and given where Indy drafted they got the best QB prospect available - no argument. Even Ryan Leaf wasn't a franchise killer - just incredibly damaging (and painful). Still not as bad as Jamarcus Russel though !

[gzubeck]

Not saying that it would be (a franchise killer), and given where Indy drafted they got the best QB prospect available - no argument. Even Ryan Leaf wasn't a franchise killer - just incredibly damaging (and painful). Still not as bad as Jamarcus Russel though !

It' fairly hard to find a QB in the draft. I mean it took the 49ers 3 first round picks and the dead last pick to find one. LOL!

[gzubeck]

He's being groomed to start immediately. IMO that's a mistake for a QB in his position. I know Indy doesn't have much at QB, but it's a risky proposition. He's going to be slow reading defenses and going thru his progressions - I hope he's as good a runner at the NFL level as he was in college . . . . . . . he'll need to be.

And you're correct; no-one knows for sure if he'll be good (or not), but we've all seen this movie before, and it usually doesn't end well . . . .

What's the problem...1st...2nd read...run for the end zone or toss it out of bounds for the first season. LOL!

[Lefty2SLO]

It' fairly hard to find a QB in the draft. I mean it took the 49ers 3 first round picks and the dead last pick to find one. LOL!

Fairly hard - there's an understatement!! There's a good bit of luck involved as well. We got unlucky with the Leaf / Manning episode, but karma paid us back with Herbert / Tua.

Miami can suck it . . . . . . we paid our dues

[DerwinBosa]

LOL. Good for him.