2022 TPB Members and Pundits Mock Draft Thread

[equivocation]

Zierlein had us trading down with PIT to 20 in his first mock draft. If Malik Willis is still on the board at 17 there could very well be a bidding war. 3 or 4 teams behind us need QBs.

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Zierlein had us trading down with PIT to 20 in his first mock draft. If Malik Willis is still on the board at 17 there could very well be a bidding war. 3 or 4 teams behind us need QBs.

IMO, *this* is what will probably happen:

There will be a cluster of 3 or 4 players at #17, any of whom Telesco would be excited to select.

Telesco then assesses how many picks can be made-- understanding the needs of the following teams-- that would still leave the Bolts with a realistic (if not guaranteed) opportunity to get a player from the original cluster.

There's only so far that Telesco is going to feel good about dropping in the 1st round, so an offer has to come in from the right team. That would most likely be a team no more than five picks down.

All of this is in the skeletal stages right now. Telesco is nowhere close to having his 'final' draft board, even with the Senior Bowl in the rear view mirror. The draft is still more than two months away. There's also the possibility that a player who clearly stands out about the rest could drop to the Bolts at #17, where it would be as evident as it was with Rashawn Slater last year that-- this is *not* a guy you pass on.

Can't wait to find out!

[powderblueboy]

IMO, *this* is what will probably happen:

There will be a cluster of 3 or 4 players at #17, any of whom Telesco would be excited to select.

Telesco then assesses how many picks can be made-- understanding the needs of the following teams-- that would still leave the Bolts with a realistic (if not guaranteed) opportunity to get a player from the original cluster.

There's only so far that Telesco is going to feel good about dropping in the 1st round, so an offer has to come in from the right team. That would most likely be a team no more than five picks down.

All of this is in the skeletal stages right now. Telesco is nowhere close to having his 'final' draft board, even with the Senior Bowl in the rear view mirror. The draft is still more than two months away. There's also the possibility that a player who clearly stands out about the rest could drop to the Bolts at #17, where it would be as evident as it was with Rashawn Slater last year that-- this is *not* a guy you pass on.

Can't wait to find out!

Teams who might want to trade-up:

#18. New Orleans (4rth?)
#20. Pittsburgh (3rd?)
#27. Tampa Bay (2nd?)

[Boltinloudguy]

Ok, I’m going to go at this and be as realistic as possible.

Resign-
Mike Williams
Justin Jones
Kyzir White
Uchenna Nwosu
Scott Quessenberry
Oday Aboushi

Restricted FA Resign-
Jalen Guyton
Donald Parham

Sign-
DT Sebastian Joseph Day
DT Folo Fatukasi
DB MJ Stewart
WR Braxton Berrios
ILB Kenny Young

1st- DE/DT/OLB Travon Walker
2nd- OT Abe Lucas
3rd- CB Coby Bryant
4th- TE Charlie Kolar
5th- OG/OT Cade Mays
6th- RB Kennedy Brooks
6th- ILB Aaron Hansford
6th- S Jaylen Foster
6th- OLB/DE Ali Fayad
7th- CB Jermaine Waller
7th- OT/OG Brandon Kipper

[equivocation]

Teams who might want to trade-up:

#18. New Orleans (4rth?)
#20. Pittsburgh (3rd?)
#27. Tampa Bay (2nd?)

QBs have inflated prices. If multiple teams covet the same QB the price can go up.

[Lone Bolt]

1. Kenyon Green OT Texas A&M- One of the best lineman in the draft, by far. On tape, his tenacity and explosiveness remind me of watching Sewell and Slater last year. Yes, I think he can play RT...some project him inside because of his supposed lack of length, but many said that about Slater too...also, if Pipkens does just happen to actually be getting it, and takes another step forward next year, maybe you do kick this guy inside to guard. Either way, he can protect the QB, and instantly upgrades the rushing attack, big time.

2. George Pickens WR Georgia- Maybe the best hands in the draft...he won't be dropping those laser beams from Herbie. If he hadn't gotten injured his senior year...if he was playing for someone like Alabama, instead of that QB carousel at Georgia, he is probably a top 10 pick. His draft stock, however, is currently all over the place. I'll play it honest, and figure on us spending a 3rd round pick to trade up higher in the second for a chance to nab him.

4. Brian Robinson RB Alabama- There are a number of bigger backs in this years draft that would perfectly compliment Ekelor/Jackson. This is one of my favorites, having been polished in a championship program that consistently produces solid RBs. He is down on a lot of boards because RBs are undervalued, and he isn't much of a home run threat or dynamic playmaker...but he is what WE need...a tenacious runner who can do it all, to soak up some tough reps, and keep best weapon, Ekelor, fresh. If his pedigree does get him nabbed earlier, Hassan Haskins and Jerome Ford are a couple of good alternatives.

OK...so I know what some of you are thinking...no defense? With all that talent, especially in the first? When defense was our biggest issue by far last year?

Honestly, I don't have a clue what we are gonna do this offseason...it makes my head ache trying to figure it out. But my best guess is that Staley is gonna hand pick some veteran FAs to fill in the weak spots on this defense, vs bringing in more youth. A big upgrade to Kyle Fackrell to help out Bosa and Nwosu, and an upgrade or help for Linval Joseph, and an upgrade for Chris Harris...I think this can all be done through FA...but unless TT can find another Feiler type gem out there, I am seeing the first round as our best bet to bolster that oline, particularly RT. Pickens' hands are just too good to pass up, and would be a godsend for Herbert in years to come, and everyone can agree we need another good RB to help extend Ekelors career...we are using this guy up too fast. For those of you who crave speed in your WR, you could trade up in the second to nab Kenneth Walker instead of Pickens, and add the dynamic Romeo Doubs out of Nevada in the fourth...if his stock doesn't skyrocket during the process.

Hey, it's just a working theory, going offense heavy early in the draft...but you won't find me dissappointed if we add Jordan Davis or Jermaine Johnson or Karlaftis...or if "Sauce" Gardner falls in our lap...but again, for now...I'm guessing FA for most of our defensive woes....Staley will want to turn this unit around fast, and accomplished vets who are pro ready are his best bet for a successful makeover.

[equivocation]

[Steve]

Don’t expect him to be another Aaron Donald but comped him to Aaron Donald as that unique, explosive IDL who can create separate from blocker and actually pressure the QB, who is undersized and overlooked. It’s difficult for me to separate prospects on loaded teams, like a Georgia or Alabama compared to a team like Pittsburg or Oregon (those guys really stand out).

The Senior Bowl exposes prospects good or bad, given format of practices for everyone to see. Was shocked to see that Wyatt not Jermaine Johnson graded out with the highest practice grade for pass rushing. Suggests only, there is something special about him, how special will have to wait until he gets in the league. I’m a big RAS fan as well so numbers mean something to me. If he does 35 reps too that checks Wyatt box for core strength. If his initial 10 yard split is close to Donald then that checks the box for explosiveness.

Still a long way from the draft. But Devonte Wyatt is a riser, maybe to #17?

https://youtu.be/WSeQPsOJ3N4

Bnnch press at the combine is more about what they can ask people to do, than it is a measure of strength. They can't ask players to come in and test their 1, 3 or 5 rep max, all of which would be a better judge of functional strength.

Prospects are asked them to do the warmup weight because presumably, no one is going to get hurt doing that. Any player who can't do 225 lbs multiple times and was in major college football program, simply didn't go into a weight room and get used to lifting weights. They have the strength but lack the familiarity to get that out of them. That is true of div 3 college players, any major college player should simply take himself out of the process.

When big guys like that start getting that many reps, it is really at test of endurance and seeing how much a guy has "practiced" to do something that has very little to do with football.

I don't have a problem with judging players on their senior bowl performances, because that is actually playing.

The combine doesn't make any sense for 2 reasons. One, all of the athletic tests are abstractions. They are NOT playing football, so someone says, do this because it is kinda, sorta, almost like some part of playing football. But none of it IS playing football. Maybe it tells people something, but probably not. Two, there is nothing that watching a drill or getting a number on a player that you can't get from watching a guy actually play football. The world is full of guys who did well at this or well at that, and then couldn't repeat it on the field. Or was good at one drill, but then had the rest of their game was empty.

Now, some players you don't have much tape on, you can verify some things you aren't necessarily sure about, especially if they are lower-division guys or guys with very little tape on. But NFL scouts go around studying guys year-round, watching games and practices with multiple guys checking everything. They know a guy's history backward and forwards and have seen every snap. I don't know what running around in spandex tells you that you didn't already know. The combine is all about getting coaches who have not seen all of this a chance to see the guys live, and to do the medicals and interviews.

[powderblueboy]

BTW, all that was against Zion Johnson (#77).

Move him up to the Charger's 2nd round cluster.

[TexanBeerlover]

Bnnch press at the combine is more about what they can ask people to do, than it is a measure of strength. They can't ask players to come in and test their 1, 3 or 5 rep max, all of which would be a better judge of functional strength.

Prospects are asked them to do the warmup weight because presumably, no one is going to get hurt doing that. Any player who can't do 225 lbs multiple times and was in major college football program, simply didn't go into a weight room and get used to lifting weights. They have the strength but lack the familiarity to get that out of them. That is true of div 3 college players, any major college player should simply take himself out of the process.

When big guys like that start getting that many reps, it is really at test of endurance and seeing how much a guy has "practiced" to do something that has very little to do with football.

I don't have a problem with judging players on their senior bowl performances, because that is actually playing.

The combine doesn't make any sense for 2 reasons. One, all of the athletic tests are abstractions. They are NOT playing football, so someone says, do this because it is kinda, sorta, almost like some part of playing football. But none of it IS playing football. Maybe it tells people something, but probably not. Two, there is nothing that watching a drill or getting a number on a player that you can't get from watching a guy actually play football. The world is full of guys who did well at this or well at that, and then couldn't repeat it on the field. Or was good at one drill, but then had the rest of their game was empty.

Now, some players you don't have much tape on, you can verify some things you aren't necessarily sure about, especially if they are lower-division guys or guys with very little tape on. But NFL scouts go around studying guys year-round, watching games and practices with multiple guys checking everything. They know a guy's history backward and forwards and have seen every snap. I don't know what running around in spandex tells you that you didn't already know. The combine is all about getting coaches who have not seen all of this a chance to see the guys live, and to do the medicals and interviews.

It’s all part of the evaluation process, to omit any advanced metric or gain insight over your competition is like conceding the edge & creating disadvantage. Front office maybe more impacted as opposed to scouting department season tape, I’ll grant you that, but in the end your just checking boxes and wrapping up medicals and background checks to make sure they’re locker room as well as scheme fit.

[powderblueboy]

#1. Kyle Gordon
#2. Travis Jones
#3. Jerome Ford

Get RT in free agency (who?)......splurge.

Easily addresses your major needs without reaching (getting guys who should be available/maybe not Ford) & you have day 3 with which to play around....tight end, more DTs/dbs

[Topcat]

IMO, *this* is what will probably happen:

There will be a cluster of 3 or 4 players at #17, any of whom Telesco would be excited to select.

Telesco then assesses how many picks can be made-- understanding the needs of the following teams-- that would still leave the Bolts with a realistic (if not guaranteed) opportunity to get a player from the original cluster.

There's only so far that Telesco is going to feel good about dropping in the 1st round, so an offer has to come in from the right team. That would most likely be a team no more than five picks down.

All of this is in the skeletal stages right now. Telesco is nowhere close to having his 'final' draft board, even with the Senior Bowl in the rear view mirror. The draft is still more than two months away. There's also the possibility that a player who clearly stands out about the rest could drop to the Bolts at #17, where it would be as evident as it was with Rashawn Slater last year that-- this is *not* a guy you pass on.

Can't wait to find out!

Yep...ideally, if there's 3-4 players we really like, and they're all about equal, if we trade down about 3 spots and pick up and extra 3rd rounder, (and we part with a 6th rounder) probably 1-2 of those those 3-4 are still left...and because our trade down partner is picking QB, there could still be 3 of the original 4 left...