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  • Boltgang74
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    • Aug 2018
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    Lol honest to a fault.

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    • 21&500
      Bolt Spit-Baller
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      Hilarious.

      oh I don’t want him, but I’m now a fan
      Chargers vs. Everyone

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      • wu-dai clan
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        • May 2017
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        Originally posted by Charge! View Post

        If I were Bosa, Chargers would have to add a talented rookie QB so he will know the Chargers mean it when they say they want to be winners....... you cannot win games today against good teams without as high scoring offense...... unless you are playing bad teams...... It had to kill Bosa and our defense ;last year watching our offense stinking up the game and struggling to score points every week......

        What really helps a pass rush is scoring over 30 points per game..... that forces the opposing team to abandon the run and pass and pass which makes pass rushing much much easier...... Reid understands this and that is why he built his team to score lots of points quickly..... and why he has owned the Chargers since he took the chiefs job....
        What really helps an offense, especially an offensive line, is a defense that keeps others from scoring.

        You asked about Kaep. He came within two passes of winning two Super Bowls.
        Then the NFL learned how to scheme and effectively defend him. Mahomes is two passes from not winning a Super Bowl.

        It is all too close to be making blanket statements. Welcome to the cycles of football.

        I hope the Chargers build their D.
        And one of these OTs would be nice.
        Trade down ! lol.
        We do not play modern football.

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        • wu-dai clan
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          Originally posted by Charge! View Post

          so true...... 3 quarters is not enough...... Reid, mahomes and that super speedy offense showed that even the best defense in NFL with the best all high first round pick DLs, could not keep that offense from scoring 30+ points when it needed to....with that kind of QB, scheme and fastest in NFL skill players, they would eventually get open and score points.... a 10 point lead is only 2 plays....... 49ers needed a better QB so they could score more points......

          today it is also far easier to score over 30 points than it is to stop teams from scoring.......with the rules the way they are, its nearly impossible to play great defense no matter how good your players are...........

          Chargers number one problem last year was inability to score points...... so it is good that this draft is loaded with offensive talent..... at least 2 great QB's, a number of great OL, lots of great WR's and RB's, and a number of good receiving TE's......
          Which WRs do you like ?
          Now Denzel Mims is creeping up.
          Hell, we can find one in round 6.
          We do not play modern football.

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            • Dec 2019
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            I don't think Simmons is going to be there at 6. I actually think the Lions might take him .

            Chargers I think are going Herbert but right now - if Simmons is not there - Brown is the pick. The Chargers need an interior DL almost as much as a starting OT. I would approve of Brown or Simmons if the pick is not QB.

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            • wu-dai clan
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              Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
              I don't think Simmons is going to be there at 6. I actually think the Lions might take him .

              Chargers I think are going Herbert but right now - if Simmons is not there - Brown is the pick. The Chargers need an interior DL almost as much as a starting OT. I would approve of Brown or Simmons if the pick is not QB.
              Trying to convince myself to pass on Tua.
              He might be there.
              Delayed gratification.
              Let's play dice in the alley, TT.
              We do not play modern football.

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              • gzubeck
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                • Jan 2019
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                Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                Trying to convince myself to pass on Tua.
                He might be there.
                Delayed gratification.
                Let's play dice in the alley, TT.
                If tua on the board we should entertain offers from other teams. I really don't want him simply because of his injury history even if he has the talent. I can't stomach another player whos never on the field.
                Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                • Topcat
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                  • Jan 2019
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                  Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                  If tua on the board we should entertain offers from other teams. I really don't want him simply because of his injury history even if he has the talent. I can't stomach another player whos never on the field.
                  Yep...especially your QB...don't need another repeat of Verrett 2.0...heck, even after he went to the Niners, he got injured...

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                    If tua on the board we should entertain offers from other teams. I really don't want him simply because of his injury history even if he has the talent. I can't stomach another player whos never on the field.
                    I am beginning to agree with you and Boltjolt on this.

                    I like the talent.
                    Mostly, it's about the accuracy.
                    But will TT resist ?
                    He's got some Polian algorithm
                    for ROI on injury prone players.

                    Here I thought Lamp/Feeney were clean prospects.
                    But take Wills/Wirfs.
                    They are so can't miss.
                    Day one starters.
                    Oh, the cap relief from not spending on UFA Oline.
                    Their Combine performances match the scouting reports and game tape.

                    Did you see and hear Wills hitting the bag during his drills ?
                    There was a powerful, powerful thump,
                    followed by the crowd applauding wildly.
                    And the feet.
                    Wirfs and his quads.
                    Ok I'll stop.
                    We do not play modern football.

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                    • gzubeck
                      Ines Sainz = Jet Bait!
                      • Jan 2019
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                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                      I am beginning to agree with you and Boltjolt on this.

                      I like the talent.
                      Mostly, it's about the accuracy.
                      But will TT resist ?
                      He's got some Polian algorithm
                      for ROI on injury prone players.

                      Here I thought Lamp/Feeney were clean prospects.
                      But take Wills/Wirfs.
                      They are so can't miss.
                      Day one starters.
                      Oh, the cap relief from not spending on UFA Oline.
                      Their Combine performances match the scouting reports and game tape.

                      Did you see and hear Wills hitting the bag during his drills ?
                      There was a powerful, powerful thump,
                      followed by the crowd applauding wildly.
                      And the feet.
                      Wirfs and his quads.
                      Ok I'll stop.
                      I actually think Herbert might be the number #2 QB off the board because of Tuas injury history. If Tuas on the board we need a direct connect to Jerry Jones Phone and they can re-unite.
                      Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                      "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                      • 21&500
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                        Too ambitious for my blood
                        ”prisoner of the moment” virus, spread by the highly visible and marketed combine
                        Positional value dictates QB over all
                        we have a need, even if Tyrod suddenly plays out of his mind, he’s 30, and depends highly on athleticism
                        we just lost our franchise QB
                        Tua’s medical is checking out positively and is scheduled to be cleared in a week
                        even if he misses a few games, that’s where Tyrods’s real value comes in
                        im even happy if Tua redshirts 2020
                        we need to occasionally outscore KC
                        Tua’s downfield accuracy is special
                        gives Bosa and James a reason to stay

                        too many reasons why even Telesco can’t afford to pass on Tua if he land on his laps.
                        Chargers vs. Everyone

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                        • gzubeck
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                          [QUOTE=21&500;n940010]Too ambitious for my blood
                          ”prisoner of the moment” virus, spread by the highly visible and marketed combine
                          Positional value dictates QB over all
                          we have a need, even if Tyrod suddenly plays out of his mind, he’s 30, and depends highly on athleticism
                          we just lost our franchise QB
                          Tua’s medical is checking out positively and is scheduled to be cleared in a week
                          even if he misses a few games, that’s where Tyrods’s real value comes in
                          im even happy if Tua redshirts 2020
                          we need to occasionally outscore KC
                          Tua’s downfield accuracy is special
                          gives Bosa and James a reason to stay

                          too many reasons why even Telesco can’t afford to pass on Tua if he land on his laps.[/QUOTE]

                          Well, if he lands on his lap, expect him to be sitting there the whole season. I would rather draft Hurts or Fromm in the second round than burn our #6 pick on Tua. Tua would be worth our #37 pick as a gamble we could live with.
                          Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                          "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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