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  • powderblueboy
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    These guys have Lynn ranked ahead of Belichick for in game decisions: he's at the lofty position of #23:

    "EdjSports analyzes every coaching decision during the course of a season. The EdjFootball model enables an in-depth examination of all critical calls (4th downs, PATs, and kickoffs), in terms of the amount of game-winning chance at stake. The coach’s play-calling choices (run, pass, field goal, punt) are assessed at the point of decision (pre-snap) and rated with respect to their impact on winning the game," the company's site explains.

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    • Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
      These guys have Lynn ranked ahead of Belichick for in game decisions: he's at the lofty position of #23:
      "EdjSports analyzes every coaching decision during the course of a season. The EdjFootball model enables an in-depth examination of all critical calls (4th downs, PATs, and kickoffs), in terms of the amount of game-winning chance at stake. The coach’s play-calling choices (run, pass, field goal, punt) are assessed at the point of decision (pre-snap) and rated with respect to their impact on winning the game," the company's site explains.
      Well, their methodology appears to be flawed. I saw nothing that accounted for things like time wasted by waiting for a booth review, time wasted with indecision, timeouts not called to get the starting QB back into the game for a critical two point conversion. There is no demonstration of the formula used. There is no accounting for momentum generated for the opponent by stupid decisions as far as I can tell in the decision evaluation process. Simulations fail to account for what is happening in the real game, et cetera.

      It is incredible that Lynn's ranking would go up despite the horrible play calling late in the @LV game.

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      • FoutsFan
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        Originally posted by Critty View Post

        Why make excuses for him. Being a QB is tough. Yes sometimes your teammates make it even harder. And yes I agree that injury can hurt roster and make thinks harder. Yes complimentary football matters.

        But he threw a terrible interception late 4th quarter on 1st and 10. You know team will typically get a couple drives a quarter per game. It was 4th quarter and he kills the drive with a that decision. He is playing the highest paid position getting his far share of the money. So he deserves his fair share of the blame. Rivers choked with game on the line.

        It wasn't a stain. Rivers threw gas on the fire when he could have put out the fire with better decision at that point in the game. He can be a great QB and have difficult set of circumstances to deal with, but he also can be too carless with football at certain moments and hurt his team big time.

        Its amazing how people continue to find scapegoats to deflect from some of Rivers flaws. It happen while he QB for Chargers and it happen when he QBs for Colts.

        And even worse when Chargers players screw up and then we blame Lynn. Is Lynn playing OT or CB? Is he kicking the ball?

        Look the players who struggle or screwed up for Colts get that blame. Rivers gets blamed for his screw up too. And since he plays the most important position. He gets more blame when it's bad and more credit when it's good. He had his chance to lead a winning drive and he choked.
        Its amazing how people blame Rivers for defensive meltdowns and other faults that the QB has nothing to do with. I seriously cannot believe I just read that you blame Rivers and find fault in him for the Colts D not being able to stop the Steelers in the second half.

        Lynn gets the blame for sticking with a window licking retard coaching (or not coaching) the STs. Lynn gets the blame for not understanding how a game clock works. Lynn gets the blame for having no answers for other teams adjustments as the game goes on. Lynn gets the blame for not lighting a fire under his D coordinators ass when Gus is out of ideas and just collecting a check on the sidelines. Lynn gets the blame for slamming on the breaks every time his team gets a lead and then cannot get the O back going again. These are not a one off. These are failings of Lynn over and over again, game in and game out. He is not learning from his mistakes, he is doubling down on them. You can't fix stupid so we need to fire stupid along with his cast of merry retards.

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        • FoutsFan
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          Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

          Well, their methodology appears to be flawed. I saw nothing that accounted for things like time wasted by waiting for a booth review, time wasted with indecision, timeouts not called to get the starting QB back into the game for a critical two point conversion. There is no demonstration of the formula used. There is no accounting for momentum generated for the opponent by stupid decisions as far as I can tell in the decision evaluation process. Simulations fail to account for what is happening in the real game, et cetera.

          It is incredible that Lynn's ranking would go up despite the horrible play calling late in the @LV game.
          He got bonus points for icing his own kicker. Very outside the box thinking there. Its like everyone else is playing 3d chess and Lynn is playing 1d jacks.

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          • dmac_bolt
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            Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

            True, but the persons on this forum did not get to see Herbert in practice versus Taylor, unlike Lynn.

            One cannot see Herbert and see Taylor, especially next to each other, and fail to see which player is better. Lynn should have named Herbert as the starter, but he wanted to implement his crappy running game emphasis even though he was sitting there with a gifted passer all along. That thinking is inexcusable.
            You saw the TC practices?
            “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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            • Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

              You saw the TC practices?
              My point is that Lynn did.

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              • NoMoreChillies
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                3 plays = 3 wins

                Badgely FG
                MDub TD
                Faycson End Zone

                can anyone argue these points?

                Players were in position to make the play and simply didnt.

                Ive said before and i'll say again:
                Stick with the guy who went 12-4 when players made plays

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                • Inforfun
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                  Originally posted by Critty View Post

                  So Lynn wasn't a good hire for Rivers?

                  Rivers had went 5-11, 4-12 with 34 interceptions before Lynn arrived in 2017.
                  He had not won double digit games since 2009.
                  Rivers was voted pro bowl only once during McCoy 4 years.

                  Lynn arrived.
                  He went 9-7 28TD 10Int. Pro bowl
                  Then 12-4 32TD 12int. Pro bowl. Statistically this is his 3rd best year of his entire career.
                  So right away winning again. TD INT ratio improved quite a bit. And 2 pro bowls and a playoff win.

                  I would say that was a very good hire. Until this 3rd year.
                  Then 5-11. 23TD 20 int. So just this one season can be said Lynn wasn't good for Rivers.

                  Just strange narrative that Lynn needs to get a Lamar Jackson. Lynn like Justin Herbert a lot. And he wouldn't trade Justin for Lamar. He just wouldn't. Its a myth that he wants a QB running all over the field.
                  The only thing Lynn said was he thinks a QB needs mobility to run a full offense. And it makes sense. If QB doesn't have mobility and cannot do any throws on the move. Then you can't move the pocket or do rollouts and bootlegs or other things as part of a game plan. You have to do everything from the pocket. Lynn wanted the extra dynamic. He has that with Justin Herbert. Lynn loves Justin.
                  The only good thing about Lynn, takes focus of the how bad the GM and Owners are. At the end of the day, it’s about wins and losses before your eliminated from playoffs.

                  Lynn is at the bottle of Head Coaches in NFL, hence their record. Even the Bills know that.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
                    These guys have Lynn ranked ahead of Belichick for in game decisions: he's at the lofty position of #23:

                    "EdjSports analyzes every coaching decision during the course of a season. The EdjFootball model enables an in-depth examination of all critical calls (4th downs, PATs, and kickoffs), in terms of the amount of game-winning chance at stake. The coach’s play-calling choices (run, pass, field goal, punt) are assessed at the point of decision (pre-snap) and rated with respect to their impact on winning the game," the company's site explains.
                    Hmm so it looks like the draft order lol. Pretty close anyways and by that it is saying coaching Matters most,.... Does it not?

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                    • Inforfun
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                      Watching Bills beat down patriot.

                      Bills OC Brian Daboll has developed josh Allen last 3years.

                      -11 years with Bill Belicheat (5 Super Bowls)
                      -1 year with Nick Sabin at Alabama (1 National Championship)

                      just saying there are options in 21... great ones.

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                      • Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post

                        Its amazing how people blame Rivers for defensive meltdowns and other faults that the QB has nothing to do with. I seriously cannot believe I just read that you blame Rivers and find fault in him for the Colts D not being able to stop the Steelers in the second half.

                        Lynn gets the blame for sticking with a window licking retard coaching (or not coaching) the STs. Lynn gets the blame for not understanding how a game clock works. Lynn gets the blame for having no answers for other teams adjustments as the game goes on. Lynn gets the blame for not lighting a fire under his D coordinators ass when Gus is out of ideas and just collecting a check on the sidelines. Lynn gets the blame for slamming on the breaks every time his team gets a lead and then cannot get the O back going again. These are not a one off. These are failings of Lynn over and over again, game in and game out. He is not learning from his mistakes, he is doubling down on them. You can't fix stupid so we need to fire stupid along with his cast of merry retards.
                        Fantastic post!!!

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                        • Inforfun
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                          Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post

                          Its amazing how people blame Rivers for defensive meltdowns and other faults that the QB has nothing to do with. I seriously cannot believe I just read that you blame Rivers and find fault in him for the Colts D not being able to stop the Steelers in the second half.

                          Lynn gets the blame for sticking with a window licking retard coaching (or not coaching) the STs. Lynn gets the blame for not understanding how a game clock works. Lynn gets the blame for having no answers for other teams adjustments as the game goes on. Lynn gets the blame for not lighting a fire under his D coordinators ass when Gus is out of ideas and just collecting a check on the sidelines. Lynn gets the blame for slamming on the breaks every time his team gets a lead and then cannot get the O back going again. These are not a one off. These are failings of Lynn over and over again, game in and game out. He is not learning from his mistakes, he is doubling down on them. You can't fix stupid so we need to fire stupid along with his cast of merry retards.
                          I love “you can’t fix stupid”

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