Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[powderblueboy]

Staley has been schooled by every single decent coach we’ve faced this season but he doesn’t seem to be learning anything g at all. Beaten like a red headed step child in the third quarter again

He has a hell of a lot to learn, given his 5 years of competitive football experience.

Expect more beatings the next few years.

[powderblueboy]

But does John Boy really do the work to draft JT Woods in R3 or Brandon Jaimes in Round 5. Granted, he is in the room so thas a problem

and look at the players lost: Bosa, Slater, the WR, the DTs - who have replaced them - all practice squad players. Has hte guy who replaced Bosa even made a tackle.

I mean zer productivity. It starts with Dean and Telesco to me

As for STaley - three plays last night

not running FORWARD with Ekeler before the half
not running a QB on that 4th and inches
not getting the defense off the field on that 3rd and 17. I knew that was the game

How much influence John Boy has is always speculative.
Given his title, he is Telesco's boss.

Who organizes the scouting department and hires the scouts.....I would guess its Telesco.
Staley, for some reason, has had a big influence on personnel. Where has he ever demonstrated an eye for talent?

[powderblueboy]

I'd vote playoffs .... just don't see it happening.

[Bolt4Knob]

How much influence John Boy has is always speculative.
Given his title, he is Telesco's boss.

Who organizes the scouting department and hires the scouts.....I would guess its Telesco.
Staley, for some reason, has had a big influence on personnel. Where has he ever demonstrated an eye for talent?

Telesco doesn't know how to build a roster - thats for sure
So if he is in charge of scouting - its a mish mash or something

The Ravens seem to find players that fit what they want to do. Telesco has never been able to have an identity for the offense or defense.
And another thing - Telesco has never drafted speed. He just is terrible - I can't stand his arrogance too.

[powderblueboy]

Telesco doesn't know how to build a roster - thats for sure
So if he is in charge of scouting - its a mish mash or something

The Ravens seem to find players that fit what they want to do. Telesco has never been able to have an identity for the offense or defense.
And another thing - Telesco has never drafted speed. He just is terrible - I can't stand his arrogance too.

He drafts speed: the 4.5+ type
One legitimate sub 4.5 guy on offense

Keenan allen,
Mike Williams,
Josh Palmer,
Melvin Gordon,
Justin Jackson,
Marion Grice,
Isaiah spiller,
KJ Hill,
Josh Kelley
Tevin Reece,
Hunter Henry (4.72),
Dylan Cantrell

I know speed isn't everything; but Jehoshaphat, you think more than one would fall through the cracks after 10 drafts.
And tevin reece was very small with bad hands.

[Bolt4Knob]

He drafts speed: the 4.5+ type
One legitimate sub 4.5 guy on offense

Keenan allen,
Mike Williams,
Josh Palmer,
Melvin Gordon,
Justin Jackson,
Marion Grice,
Isaiah spiller,
KJ Hill,
Josh Kelley
Tevin Reece,
Hunter Henry (4.72),
Dylan Cantrell

I know speed isn't everything; but Jehoshaphat, you think more than one would fall through the cracks after 10 drafts.
And tevin reece was very small with bad hands.

speed isn't everything but if the guy can catch the ball and run fast - thats a nice combo to have
I am just so ready for the guy to go

[richpjr]

How much influence John Boy has is always speculative.
Given his title, he is Telesco's boss.

Who organizes the scouting department and hires the scouts.....I would guess its Telesco.
Staley, for some reason, has had a big influence on personnel. Where has he ever demonstrated an eye for talent?

To think John Spanos tells Telesco who to draft is laughable.

[Bolt4Knob]

To think John Spanos tells Telesco who to draft is laughable.

thats what I mean. its one thing in round 1 but does john boy really do the work to know that mckitty was a better prospect than say Quin Meneirz

I just don't see it

This is Telescos team - his vision. He has been around the NFL close to 30 years now and is not good at his job

[richpjr]

thats what I mean. its one thing in round 1 but does john boy really do the work to know that mckitty was a better prospect than say Quin Meneirz

I just don't see it

This is Telescos team - his vision. He has been around the NFL close to 30 years now and is not good at his job

Agree. Judge him by his record. No playoffs this year and he should be let go, along with Staley. I suspect both could get an injury mulligan though.

[jaguarmanftype]

To think John Spanos tells Telesco who to draft is laughable.

Yeah, that's doubtful, though he has been groomed to have more input in that area.

[Boltjolt]

speed isn't everything but if the guy can catch the ball and run fast - thats a nice combo to have
I am just so ready for the guy to go

Me too! But I'm just afraid of what we're going to get. Same old first time, cheap GM. Or worse yet, Maybe John boy takes over as GM

[Bolt4Knob]

Me too! But I'm just afraid of what we're going to get. Same old first time, cheap GM. Or worse yet, Maybe John boy takes over as GM

That is the alternative.... Granted, the one time they hired a very experienced coach, Marty - team was pretty damn good

Not that they would pay for Sean Payton but I can see him going to a team and be like Andy Reid
The Grand Poobah
Head Coach, GM, Player Personnel - hires good people but runs the show