2022 Official Chargers Season Discussion

[TexanBeerlover]

Amen,...and I do hope we trade Tillery.

I'd rather just release him after season, for whatever compensation comes back, time to move on. I've listened, y'all been heard, he's just not worth a starting role with Chargers moving forward.

[Boltjolt]

I'd rather just release him after season, for whatever compensation comes back, time to move on. I've listened, y'all been heard, he's just not worth a starting role with Chargers moving forward.

Ok sure, but there has to be a taker. I'm talking lower pick, 5th on down. I'll take whatever.

[TexanBeerlover]

Ok sure, but there has to be a taker. I'm talking lower pick, 5th on down. I'll take whatever.

Unfortunately, his traits did not translate as projected. For the record I was onboard with selection in beginning, so time to admit mistake.

[like54ninjas]

Ok sure, but there has to be a taker. I'm talking lower pick, 5th on down. I'll take whatever.

I’d use him as capital to move up in a round.
Exp…
Our 3rd, say #32, and Tillery to move up to top 10-15 in 3rd or if some team is foolish enough to do it in the 2nd round.

[Boltjolt]

I’d use him as capital to move up in a round.
Exp…
Our 3rd, say #32, and Tillery to move up to top 10-15 in 3rd or if some team is foolish enough to do it in the 2nd round.

Yes, that too. He has some value,. ...to somebody.

[Boltnut]

How much more should the Chargers offer Davante Adams over Mike Williams if at all?

Spotrac has estimated market values for many players. Here are their estimated values for Adams/Williams:

Davante Adams: $23.9 million
Mike Williams: $15.5 million

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/davante-adams-14463/market-value/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-chargers/mike-williams-21748/market-value/

DA: 72/979/5
MW: 46/705/7

My biggest problem with Mike Williams is that he simply disappears in certain games (Minn, Phi, NE, Balt). 3 of those games were losses. People were excited about his game winning 53-yard TD last week. But that was a blown coverage. Before that catch, he had 4 catches for 44 yards. I'm not paying $15.5 million for that kind of inconsistency. And I'm not spending 2022 draft capital on another WR. Not when we need quality RT, EDGE, and CB to put us over the top to compete for a SB ring.

We are in a unique situation... for once, we have a lot of cap space. $76 million (per Spotrac) even before we cut Bulaga (another $11 million in cap savings).
The other position we could fortify via FA is the IDL positions... relatively cheaply.

[Boltjolt]

Spotrac has estimated market values for many players. Here are their estimated values for Adams/Williams:

Davante Adams: $23.9 million
Mike Williams: $15.5 million

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-ba.../market-value/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange.../market-value/

DA: 72/979/5
MW: 46/705/7

My biggest problem with Mike Williams is that he simply disappears in certain games (Minn, Phi, NE, Balt). 3 of those games were losses. People were excited about his game winning 53-yard TD last week. But that was a blown coverage. Before that catch, he had 4 catches for 44 yards. I'm not paying $15.5 million for that kind of inconsistency. And I'm not spending 2022 draft capital on another WR. Not when we need quality RT, EDGE, and CB to put us over the top to compete for a SB ring.

We are in a unique situation... for once, we have a lot of cap space. $76 million (per Spotrac) even before we cut Bulaga (another $11 million in cap savings).
The other position we could fortify via FA is the IDL positions... relatively cheaply.

I wouldnt say it was a blown coverage. I call it an adjustment alert to their defense the way they were playing that play call previous and we sent MW deep

[like54ninjas]

Spotrac has estimated market values for many players. Here are their estimated values for Adams/Williams:

Davante Adams: $23.9 million
Mike Williams: $15.5 million

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/davante-adams-14463/market-value/

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-chargers/mike-williams-21748/market-value/

DA: 72/979/5
MW: 46/705/7

My biggest problem with Mike Williams is that he simply disappears in certain games (Minn, Phi, NE, Balt). 3 of those games were losses. People were excited about his game winning 53-yard TD last week. But that was a blown coverage. Before that catch, he had 4 catches for 44 yards. I'm not paying $15.5 million for that kind of inconsistency. And I'm not spending 2022 draft capital on another WR. Not when we need quality RT, EDGE, and CB to put us over the top to compete for a SB ring.

We are in a unique situation... for once, we have a lot of cap space. $76 million (per Spotrac) even before we cut Bulaga (another $11 million in cap savings).
The other position we could fortify via FA is the IDL positions... relatively cheaply.

Adams gets Keenan type target #s.

NAME / TARGETS / RECEPTIONS / TDs

Adams = 106 / 72 / 5
Allen = 106 / 74 / 2
MDub = 78 / 46 / 7

[Boltnut]

I wouldnt say it was a blown coverage. I call it an adjustment alert to their defense the way they were playing that play call previous and we sent MW deep

Whatever you want to call it, the safety didn't rotate over in time. MW didn't create the separation... the play-call did. MW has had trouble creating separation. Davante Adams does not have that problem. Defending KA and DA would be extremely hard. If we're going to be a pass-first team, why not have dominant WR's...?

[Boltjolt]

Whatever you want to call it, the safety didn't rotate over in time. MW didn't create the separation... the play-call did. MW has had trouble creating separation. Davante Adams does not have that problem. Defending KA and DA would be extremely hard. If we're going to be a pass-first team, why not have dominant WR's...?

It worked and something they hadn't seen on film. I've seen MW open plenty while the throw went to Keenan.

Would love to have Adams but for 8-9 mil a year more? Don't think so. What we need is another good 3rd WR to open things up more. Guyton ain't it and Palmer still a ?

[wu-dai clan]

All of you.

I am not understanding this as a roster building strategy. You are like crazed housewives with credit cards.

Why do you think we drafted Palmer and McKitty ? It was known MW and Cook were one year propositions.

There is one football for Herb to distribute. We do not need mega production from anyone new to the locker room.

KA. EK. Parham. Palmer. McKitty. Draft a WR. That's my humble projection.

UFA WRs are fools gold. Marty had his David Boston.

Invest in filling holes and overall depth. Build on top of the foundation that is here. Yunggins will emerge--count on it.

Respectfully counter-argued,
wisdom of wu

[Boltnut]

Adams gets Keenan type target #s.

NAME / TARGETS / RECEPTIONS / TDs

Adams = 106 / 72 / 5
Allen = 106 / 74 / 2
MDub = 78 / 46 / 7

Targets not converted:

Adams = 34
Allen = 32
MDub = 32

Imagine if you drafted Woody's guy (Demus) in the 4th round. 4 WR sets: KA, DA, Palmer, Demus. Nearly unstoppable. Early leads would make opponents one-dimensional and save us from run-heavy offenses.