The Melvin Gordon Saga - Holdout Over

[Formula 21]

August 8 is game 1. August 9 is the day TT starts to worry.

[powderblueboy]

From Bleacher report:

Even after some pretty significant turnover during free agency, the Washington Redskins are still strong on offense and suspect defensively. Specifically, the Burgundy and Gold will enter the 2017 NFL season once again boasting a pass attack the envy of most teams in football.

The weakness on offense remains on the ground because the Redskins still don't have a bluechip workhorse to carry the load. Not being able to move the chains running the ball will continue to hamstring this team at the business end of a season.

Issues on the ground could persist on defense, although the Redskins have given themselves a better chance of stopping the run after recruiting two new starters along the line.

Those moves were timely and necessary from team president Bruce Allen. But he may see his good work undone unless similar fixes are applied at inside linebacker, where Washington's D' still lacks elite athleticism.

Surprise, surprise, the Redskins also still find themselves wanting at safety. New coordinator Greg Manusky will have to choose between a host of converted cornerbacks or a pair of hitters who look limited in space.

Find out which of Washington's position groups rate as strengths and weaknesses ahead of the new season.

[powderblueboy]

You might have to give up something other than a convenient cast off for Trent Williams.


Safety: Rayshawn Jenkins?

linebacker: Drue Tranquil? Kyzir White?



If Peterson is done, they will need a workhouse back.

You can always throw in Dzubner to sweeten the pot.

[Sgt. Pepper]

You might have to give up something other than a convenient cast off for Trent Williams.


Safety: Rayshawn Jenkins?

linebacker: Drue Tranquil? Kyzir White?



If Peterson is done, they will need a workhouse back.

You can always throw in Dzubner to sweeten the pot.

Rayshawn was not able to move past Jahleel Addae on the depth chart in two seasons. There's nothing to indicate he will ever be anything other than a special teams contributor.
Drue Tranquill is a a rookie 4th round draft choice.

White was a 4th round pick who got injured early and missed most of his rookie season. He has done nothing in the NFL.

Dz ub ner is on the bubble and will probably be available on the waiver wire in a few weeks.

None of these guys have much trade value. The waiver wire will be full of guys like these after training camp.

[Panamamike]

You are probably correct but with a rook QB, a vet RB could help his NFL acclamation.

So we send MGIII & a 3rd and we get Trent/Guice.

Nice in theory or fantasy GM, but I really see 0 chance of a straight trade with Washington where they take Gordon.

[powderblueboy]

Rayshawn was not able to move past Jahleel Addae on the depth chart in two seasons. There's nothing to indicate he will ever be anything other than a special teams contributor.
Drue Tranquill is a a rookie 4th round draft choice.

White was a 4th round pick who got injured early and missed most of his rookie season. He has done nothing in the NFL.

Dz ub ner is on the bubble and will probably be available on the waiver wire in a few weeks.

None of these guys have much trade value. The waiver wire will be full of guys like these after training camp.

Tranquil is a promising rookie at a position of need for Washington.
White is a promising 2nd year player at a position of need for Washington. He was already starting on a 12 - 4 team & impressed many.
Rayshawn might start over Adderly - he plays at a position of need for Washington. He has started in two playoff games on a 12 - 4 team. He replaced Addae at free safety, which wasn't his intended position when drafted. This year, he's changed his body for that position.

Washington has scouts & a GM. If they think these players would fit their system they would be interested.

I chose these players exactly because they do have value: they have low contracts and can start for you for a few years if you are Washington.
I chose these players because losing them would hurt the Chargers. You might trade one and a draft pick to Washington for Trent Williams. Swapping
Gordon for Williams won't happen.

Why draft after the 3rd round if you can get these guys off the waiver wire?

Dzubner is the only one on the list with no trade value and could be find on the waiver wire. His inclusion was not intended to be taken seriously.

[Formula 21]

Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliott holdouts: Two interesting twists to RBs refusing to report to teams

The CBA has a couple interesting twists as it relates to the Gordon and Zeke holdouts

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• by Will Brinson
• @WillBrinson

How long can he actually stay away from the team?

Gordon already has four accrued seasons under his belt, so he's eligible for free agency. His No. 1 concern needs to be making sure his contract doesn't toll. This is where things get a little tricky. I talked with Joel Corry, former sports agent and now my colleague at CBS Sports, and he believes the decision on a contract tolling -- essentially rolling over into the next season on the same terms -- would probably come down to how an arbitrator interprets precedent. And Corry thinks Joey Galloway is that precedent.

Galloway skipped four preseason games and eight regular-season games in the 1999 season looking for more money from the Seahawks. The Seahawks tried to toll his contract and keep him in 2000 under the same terms. An arbitrator ruled Galloway met the minimum standard for time played and the Seahawks were forced to franchise tag him.

With the new CBA ruling that six games active equates to an accrued season, it is probably safe to suggest that a player would need to return by Week 10 to prevent a contract being tolled. Or perhaps Week 9 if you're Gordon -- the Chargers have a bye in Week 9. If Gordon holds out until Week 9, he wouldn't earn 9/17th of his salary, meaning he could potentially lose as much as 13 weeks of pay. Gordon could play basically less than half the year and end up making just $1.318 million and then get hit with the tag again next year.

Gordon has implied he's willing to miss regular-season games.

[Topcat]

You might have to give up something other than a convenient cast off for Trent Williams.


Safety: Rayshawn Jenkins?

linebacker: Drue Tranquil? Kyzir White?



If Peterson is done, they will need a workhouse back.

You can always throw in Dzubner to sweeten the pot.

LOL...and throw in Cardale to make it even sweeter!

[Formula 21]

LOL...and throw in Cardale to make it even sweeter!

You might have to throw in a draft pick to make them take him.

[Caslon]

Gordon's "ME FIRST" attitude is something the locker room can do without. A team player? Hardly. Prima Donna is more like it. Vincent Jackson didn't translate into much for the Bucs. He had a respectable career there, but not much else. He didn't improve the Bucs chances at post season any. Gordon will get his "respect" but not much else. He'll get his pay and fall into obscurity. Respect and money is all he ever wanted in the first place. The Chargers can do without that kind of pariah. He'll miss 4 or 5 games yearly on another team on his way to a big payday. Whatever teams better OL won't make a difference. He didn't miss games due to our O-line. It's his style of running.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Tranquil is a promising rookie at a position of need for Washington.
White is a promising 2nd year player at a position of need for Washington. He was already starting on a 12 - 4 team & impressed many.
Rayshawn might start over Adderly - he plays at a position of need for Washington. He has started in two playoff games on a 12 - 4 team. He replaced Addae at free safety, which wasn't his intended position when drafted. This year, he's changed his body for that position.

Washington has scouts & a GM. If they think these players would fit their system they would be interested.

I chose these players exactly because they do have value: they have low contracts and can start for you for a few years if you are Washington.
I chose these players because losing them would hurt the Chargers. You might trade one and a draft pick to Washington for Trent Williams. Swapping
Gordon for Williams won't happen.

Why draft after the 3rd round if you can get these guys off the waiver wire?

Dzubner is the only one on the list with no trade value and could be find on the waiver wire. His inclusion was not intended to be taken seriously.

The waiver wire is full of rookie and sophomore 3rd day draft picks who showed promise. That's all Tranquill and White have at this point until they accomplish something in the NFL. Washington passed on the opportunity to draft Tranquill and White in the fourth round of the past two drafts.
Rayshawn isn't going to beat out Adderley. They've had two years to evaluate Rayshawn. If the Chargers felt Rayshawn was going to develop into a starting-caliber FS, they wouldn't have drafted Adderly. Rayshawn is a backup and special-teams contributor. Honesty, just a guy.

[like54ninjas]

The waiver wire is full of rookie and sophomore 3rd day draft picks who showed promise. That's all Tranquill and White have at this point until they accomplish something in the NFL. Washington passed on the opportunity to draft Tranquill and White in the fourth round of the past two drafts.
Rayshawn isn't going to beat out Adderley. They've had two years to evaluate Rayshawn. If the Chargers felt Rayshawn was going to develop into a starting-caliber FS, they wouldn't have drafted Adderly. Rayshawn is a backup and special-teams contributor. Honesty, just a guy.

Interesting opinion and evaluation of talent