The Melvin Gordon Saga - Holdout Over

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  • Formula 21
    The Future is Now
    • Jun 2013
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    I don't blame Gordon, he has leverage now, not next year. This holdout potentially means millions more for him in the long run.
    Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
    The Wasted Decade is done.
    Build Back Better.

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    • Topcat
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      • Jan 2019
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      Originally posted by Fleet View Post

      I dont see a diss in the text. I havnt read all the news releases about this though. Ive had a busy morning. Are Gordon and his agent dissing the Chargers?
      I guess what I meant is I don't like to see an agent spreading any info via text or email while negotiations could still be going on.

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      • Fleet
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        • Jun 2013
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        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

        I guess what I meant is I don't like to see an agent spreading any info via text or email while negotiations could still be going on.
        I think at this point they had probably made their decision. I had this text sitting on my phone prior to the news coming out. My brother is pretty connected. He broke the Bosa deal before it was announced. It was fun being the forum to do that. I would have posted it here but was doing other things and my phone was dead. I didnt even see the text until i logged into my macbook. Which has a texting app.

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        • wu-dai clan
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          • May 2017
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          Originally posted by Fleet View Post

          I dont see a diss in the text. I havnt read all the news releases about this though. Ive had a busy morning. Are Gordon and his agent dissing the Chargers?
          Agreed. There is no diss.

          In the vernacular of the day, we have two friends texting.

          "...shut the fuck up." is the same as saying "...you are kidding me."
          Last edited by wu-dai clan; 07-11-2019, 11:41 AM.
          We do not play modern football.

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          • OhioBolt
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            • Jun 2013
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            The timing is messed up for sure despite the short comings at the OL this could be our year and although I am not sure of Gordon's worth, he has improved year to year, he hasn't proven to remain health but one season. Just bad timing he is the only back that we have that consistently breaks tackles and with this O-line you need that Eckler and Jackson are good change of pace backs quick and elusive. I am not sure what you offer Gordon, but I don't think he is in the price range of Levon Bell, Todd Gurley, Devonte Freeman or David Johnson, so if he is looking to get that range we have a problem.

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            • Formula 21
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              • Jun 2013
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              I'm hoping they can find away to sign him. I don't discount his importance to this offense.
              Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
              The Wasted Decade is done.
              Build Back Better.

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              • like54ninjas
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                • Oct 2017
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                Something close to Gurley's contract is not a good idea.
                Gordon is smart to try and maximize his value now. This is his best opportunity to do so. With this said it is a bad idea to give a huge contract.
                MGIII has missed multiple games in 3 of 4 seasons and has a degenerative knee issue. He only touted the rock 175 times last year.
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                • Fleet
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                  • Jun 2013
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                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  Agreed. There is no diss.

                  In the vernacular of the day, we have two friends texting.

                  "...shut the fuck up." is the same as saying "...you are kidding me."
                  This is between father and son. lol So yes the STFU was absolutely a "are you kidding me?"

                  In the end the news is not shocking to me. I knew they were trying to get him singed a while ago. And with no new deal seemingly close a holdout would be expected. And again i tend to go back to a draft strategy i have and thats to grab a really good RB in the middle rounds when you have a stud coming up on the end of a contract. Justin Jones had 2 good games. 15 carries total across those 2 games. Its a tiny sample size. I dont know that he is a bellcow stud like RB until i see more this year. Outside of those 15 carries he didnt do exceptionally well.

                  Gordon at a full yard more per carry is massive. Especially with how much he gets hit. Gordon is the perfect RB to make a mediocre run blocking OL look better than they are. Hes a best. Jackson is small. Is Gordon fragile? Or is he always nursing injuries because he gets smacked so much due to an OL that isnt creating huge lanes for him to run through? I dont know.

                  But we missed the playoffs a lot after LT and the run game was a major reason why. We draft Gordon....start getting back to the playoffs and now we are potentially looking at another regression in the run game. Gordon was my guy. That was my love connection in that draft. And while i dont think we should sign him long term...the best case scenario would have been to have him this year and then draft a stud next year. In what will be a loaded RB class.

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    • May 2017
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                    Cannot a father and son be friends also ?

                    :hello:

                    We do not play modern football.

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                    • Fleet
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                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                      Cannot a father and son be friends also ?

                      :hello:
                      Of course. The best of friends.

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                      • FoutsFan
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                        • Feb 2019
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                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                        Cannot a father and son be friends also ?

                        :hello:
                        I have reminded my kids several times do not talk to me like I am one of your friends. I am not your friend I am your father.

                        That does not mean that once they are out of the house on their own we cannot be friends but as long as they are living under my roof and on my dime then no.

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post

                          I have reminded my kids several times do not talk to me like I am one of your friends. I am not your friend I am your father.

                          That does not mean that once they are out of the house on their own we cannot be friends but as long as they are living under my roof and on my dime then no.
                          You're kidding me.
                          We do not play modern football.

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