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Originally posted by onthefence View PostBeen watching him since his first start against KC all those years ago. He had his window. He had great o-lines. He had playoff caliber teams over the years. Just my opinion but I feel he has always been wound a little too tightly. You still have people on here saying all he needs is a good o line. He has only been sacked nine more times than the Cowboys who have the lowest amount in the league.They also average 4.1 yards per rushing attempt. Take those numbers any way one wants but blaming the o-line for PR's short comings (which most of the die hard PR fans continue to do) just doesn't cut it in my book. Is this o-line great? No but it sure isn't the piece of crap everyone seems to think it is. You made a great point in one of your posts about Pr always letting the clock run to one second or zero on the play clock. He does this quite consistently which allows the d line to know exactly when the ball will be snapped on almost every down. I do not see ANY other team doing this on such a consistently alarming level.
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Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
Our remaing games are basically scrimmages. We will not be in the playoffs, W or L.
ps. thinkin' we need to move on from the ASAP already,5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Fence, u hit the nail on the head. Even with a decent O-line, I just don't think it will help Rivers that much, especially in crunch time and/or vs. good teams and/or in a close game. Your comment that PR is "wound a little too tightly" manifests itself in the following ways: He allows himself to get too emotional in some cases and forces the rock into coverage for picks which lose us games; he gets hot under the collar and jaws at opposing players, which, I feel, affects his play in some cases; he gives up and turtles up on some plays instead of at LEAST making some attempt to scramble for a few yards. He holds onto the rock too long in many cases, looking for the long ball, and gets sacked, stripped, tipped or fumbles for crucial game-changing turnovers. And there are more examples...
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
Fence, u hit the nail on the head. Even with a decent O-line, I just don't think it will help Rivers that much, especially in crunch time and/or vs. good teams and/or in a close game. Your comment that PR is "wound a little too tightly" manifests itself in the following ways: He allows himself to get too emotional in some cases and forces the rock into coverage for picks which lose us games; he gets hot under the collar and jaws at opposing players, which, I feel, affects his play in some cases; he gives up and turtles up on some plays instead of at LEAST making some attempt to scramble for a few yards. He holds onto the rock too long in many cases, looking for the long ball, and gets sacked, stripped, tipped or fumbles for crucial game-changing turnovers. And there are more examples...
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that gave us this GEM:
Watching this gives me the impression he prefers to long pass to all others. He wants to burn those pass rushers and trash talk em into submission. Damn I love Rivers.
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Originally posted by NoMoreChillies View Post
was good to see Rivers hit Ekeler on screen pass
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that gave us this GEM:
Watching this gives me the impression he prefers to long pass to all others. He wants to burn those pass rushers and trash talk em into submission. Damn I love Rivers.
hahaha
”17 keeps talking!”P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Matlock
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Less trash from PR talk is in order. You're a 5-8 team. Not an 8-5 team. Remember way back when PR trash talked to the refs about a call he thought was unjust and it caused the HC to have to call a timeout at a critical time near the end of the game with seconds counting down? That's the part about PR's trash talk I don't like. PR was certain that the refs got it wrong, instead of keeping his cool and keeping his mind on the game and the clock and that what he exclaimed to the refs wasn't going to matter, he ignored that aspect. It's as if by sheer will he could change the call and alter reality, while critical seconds ticked off the clock. PR is in is own world at times, not the teams world or reality.Last edited by Caslon; 12-11-2019, 01:27 AM.
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Rivers has been clutch.
Regular season wins at KC & BAL come to mind.
Playoffs at CIN.
This is all in the distant past.
We can expect Rivers to come back,
but I want the cap relief, personally.
It is not easy to find a rare franchise QB,
but the journey must begin,
sooner or later.
DEN and Lock ? LOL.
wisdom of wu presents woodMock v2 soon...
More way too early talking points.
At ~ top ten, we must really, really
identify talent more than position of need.We do not play modern football.
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I love PR but a good showing against a terrible injury depleted Jaguars team which some college teams can give them a run for shouldn’t be seen as merit for him returning. Jags are the 26th ranked D in the league in pts allowed.
Let’s see how he does in the Minnesota game and the two games after that.
One good game doesn’t make up for a season full of bad decisions, and under thrown balls.
Both him and Eli should walk away from the game peacefully after this season imo. Ben will soon follow (sure the Steelers wish they hadn’t given him that long contract).Tom Telesco’s Results in 9 years as Chargers GM:
- 69-74 record
- 0 division titles in 9 yrs as GM
- Worst record among all active GMs with same tenure
- 6th worst winning percentage among all active GMs overall
- 2 playoff wins despite elite QB all 9 yrs
- Team still has the same weaknesses (Oline and run defense) that it had when hired as GM in 2013
- Consistently puts together horrible depth, expects starters to never miss games
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Originally posted by Critty View PostIdeally.
The line gets healthy.
They add a solid FA to the line.
They add speed FA WR to the group.
They make a move for a QB in the draft.
And they bring back Rivers for another season.
Im just not wanting them to build around Rivers for the future. And I dont think you can count on the o line to be healthy all year and being a top 5 unit. I also dont like that we have limitations in redzone and short yardage because there is no threat of mobility by the QB. It limits the playbook.
I think we need a future franchise QB who plays great in the pocket but also can buy time and make off schedule plays with mobility.
I think its a false narrative to blame everyone but Rivers for lack of AFC West titles for 10 seasons in a row. I think he should as franchise QB and leader get his fair share of the blame.
It is better to make moves 1 year early than 1 year late. I think we may be getting close to 1 year too late if we keep riding the Rivers Family Van.
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Originally posted by UglyTruth View PostI love PR but a good showing against a terrible injury depleted Jaguars team which some college teams can give them a run for shouldn’t be seen as merit for him returning. Jags are the 26th ranked D in the league in pts allowed.
Let’s see how he does in the Minnesota game and the two games after that.
One good game doesn’t make up for a season full of bad decisions, and under thrown balls.
Both him and Eli should walk away from the game peacefully after this season imo. Ben will soon follow (sure the Steelers wish they hadn’t given him that long contract).
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Originally posted by Caslon View PostLess trash from PR talk is in order. You're a 5-8 team. Not an 8-5 team. Remember way back when PR trash talked to the refs about a call he thought was unjust and it caused the HC to have to call a timeout at a critical time near the end of the game with seconds counting down? That's the part about PR's trash talk I don't like. PR was certain that the refs got it wrong, instead of keeping his cool and keeping his mind on the game and the clock and that what he exclaimed to the refs wasn't going to matter, he ignored that aspect. It's as if by sheer will he could change the call and alter reality, while critical seconds ticked off the clock. PR is in is own world at times, not the teams world or reality.
Ref:
Last edited by PMR9FAN; 12-11-2019, 11:34 AM.
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