2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

[Boltnut]

DAL: WAS, CIN, PHI, NYG
WAS: DAL, CAR, PHI
PHI: DAL, WAS
CIN: NYG, DAL, HOU
NYG: CIN, DAL
HOU: DET, CIN

Our game with ATL will determine if we're drafting 3rd/4th or 7th/8th

[Lone Bolt]

Don’t forget Wyatt Davis
Positional value be dammed

We end up turning this thing around, and pick in the teens...that guy is on my radar big time. Once you get outside the top 10 picks, I don't see a huge drop off with OTs and Edge players from the middle first to the middle second round...so why not grab a stud IOL? Of course, still a lot of college ball left, plus the bowls, senior bowl, combine...things can change...

But I do have my eye on Davis...

[Lone Bolt]

Herbert is killing it....Burrows was too before he went down...Tua is mixed, but if he turns it around, there are gonna be a lot of QB hungry teams looking at those guys, and thinking they can get one too...I have been kinda reserved with this opinion, but I'm gonna throw it out there...we could easily see 5 QBs go in the top 15...and I would argue that if the top 5 nail the process...we are looking at an unprecedented 5 QBs in the top 10. (Well...at least I think it's unprecedented...I welcome fact checkers...)

Lawrence, Fields, Trask, Lance...and BYU's Wilson is shooting up boards. Maybe Lance or Wilson return...but Newman, Ehlinger, and Mond got the Senior Bowl to show out (Actually, don't know if they will let Newman play or not...but he is a Senior)

But if those 5 come out, and again, nail the process...and we are picking top 10? We are either gonna get a damn good player, or a damn good trade package...cuz there are a ton of QB needy teams, and a big class of seemingly quality QBs.

[21&500]

We end up turning this thing around, and pick in the teens...that guy is on my radar big time. Once you get outside the top 10 picks, I don't see a huge drop off with OTs and Edge players from the middle first to the middle second round...so why not grab a stud IOL? Of course, still a lot of college ball left, plus the bowls, senior bowl, combine...things can change...

But I do have my eye on Davis...

Absolutely.
would go a long way in helping Feeney too.

[21&500]

Herbert is killing it....Burrows was too before he went down...Tua is mixed, but if her turns it around, there are gonna be a lot of QB hungry teams looking at those guys, and thinking they can get one too...I have been kinda reserved with this opinion, but I'm gonna throw it out there...we could easily see 5 QBs go in the top 15...and I would argue that if the top 5 nail the process...we are looking at an unprecedented 5 QBs in the top 10. (Well...at least I think it's unprecedented...I welcome fact checkers...)

Lawrence, Fields, Trask, Lance...and BYU's Wilson is shooting up boards. Maybe Lance or Wilson return...but Newman, Ehlinger, and Mond got the Senior Bowl to show out(Actually, don't know if they will let Newman play or not...but he is a Senior)

But if those 5 come out, and again, nail the process...and we are picking top 10? We are either gonna get a damn good player, or a damn good trade package...cuz there are a ton of QB needy teams, and a big class of seemingly quality QBs.

Was think the same thing!
I don’t see how seeing these three QBs (at least 2) doesn’t influence GMs/owners to select QBs early

[Classic]

Not sure why everyone is writing us off for Sewell so early.

After this week we'll be in great position again:

Washington plays Dallas, so we're going to move up at least one spot. Several other games put us in good position to move up (or at least give us some room to not move down, even with another win). Detroit and Houston have 4 and 3 wins, so we gain cushion either way. NYG play Cin so we either jump Cincy or put some cushion between us and the Giants. Minnesota plays Carolina giving us a cushion on one of the teams with 4 wins, well.


Week 13 it's important we lose to the Pats because not many other teams have win opportunities

Week 14: Dallas @ Cincy (someone will have to win or tie), Denver @ Carolina, and we have to lose to ATL

Week 16: Cincy @ Houston

Week 17: NFC east plays each other.

We will have to continue to play like garbage because we have some winnable games, but if we stay in the 4 win range, I think we will be in position to get Sewell unless Cincy totally sucks. I think the 5-6 win range still nets us a top 7 pick.

Its because the Bengals have Finley as their QB, and he is by far the worst QB starting of all the bad teams. I can't see them winning another game.

[dmac_bolt]

Absolutely.
would go a long way in helping Feeney too.

So we’re sticking with the ever-failed Feeney experiment again next year? Double up and fail another Lamp year too? Those guys have never measured up, they are long past their expiration. Move them to backups, get real linemen.

[21&500]

So we’re sticking with the ever-failed Feeney experiment again next year? Double up and fail another Lamp year too? Those guys have never measured up, they are long past their expiration. Move them to backups, get real linemen.

Don’t disagree but apparently Feeney at Center is the long term plan according to someone (think it was popper).
Feeney would make for nice depth at C and possibly start at G (experience at C helps)
of course that all possibly changes once we get a different coach in here.

[Topcat]

So we’re sticking with the ever-failed Feeney experiment again next year? Double up and fail another Lamp year too? Those guys have never measured up, they are long past their expiration. Move them to backups, get real linemen.

Actually, Lamp is finally playing fairly well...Feeney, not so much--dude seems to get rag-dolled a lot...

[Caslon]

So we’re sticking with the ever-failed Feeney experiment again next year? Double up and fail another Lamp year too? Those guys have never measured up, they are long past their expiration. Move them to backups, get real linemen.

Derwin James has the potential to be the "Junior Seau" of the secondary, and a leader on defense, if he's healthy next year and not a glass bulb. If he's healthy next year, than he sure was a good TT pick. The guy has injury issues so far. TT's picks were on the defensive side of the ball last year, time to try again on the offensive side of the ball. Herbert deserves it.

[Topcat]

Derwin James has the potential to be the "Junior Seau" of the secondary, and a leader on defense, if he's healthy next year and not a glass bulb. If he's healthy next year, than he sure was a good TT pick. The guy has injury issues so far. TT's picks were on the defensive side of the ball last year, time to try again on the offensive side of the ball. Herbert deserves it.

That's a mighty big "if"...

[Caslon]

The biggest flaw in the defense is the secondary, whether coached poorly or not and missing James and having Hayward a step slow. Breakdowns in the secondary this season have led to most of the 4th quarter losses this year. TT will pin his hopes on Derwin James and replacing Hayward next year. Drafting a top 10 O-lineman at #1. Yes, Lamp was a #2 and is now just coming on. The Chargers should pair him with a #1 pick at O-lineman. Also, draft another O-lineman with their 3rd. Get a DB at #2. It's time to draft for the future and not jazz in the present.