2021 Official Chargers Season Discusssion

[gzubeck]

Holy crap - a couple dozen pages to teach me that the vagaries between a #47 and #57 is the doom of the team.

Chainpucker actually thinks the team got worse just because of a single in his mind WR5. Ignore their new starting LT, completely rebuilt OL save RT, probable starting CB (or nickel), James, Adderley and The TranqGun all back, a promising rookie RB and solid backup OG prospect, a solid edge replacement for a faded no-sack T-Rex along with another interesting smaller but maniacal rush specialist, a true one-gap immovable line-clogging backup NT but no … the loss of a WR5 Tbilly who doesn’t even play STs and his 3 TDs spells the end of the franchise?

Lol … fucking nuts.

The loss of Tbilly plus drafting Palmer in the third. Maybe we should've had Telesco just randomly pick another olinemen in the third and properly waste the pick!

:beer:

[Bolt Dude]

I know we’re pretty set at ILB, but I wonder if Staley’s tempted to grab Micah Kiser now that the Rams waived him.

[21&500]

Guys I realize there's a ton of "head scratchers" but given that Staley is new, I think he deserves the intial benefit of the doubt.
No doubting his football acumen, and no doubting every roster decision was 100% intentional
So let's give it a few months before we bury these moves.
It doesn't take a football savant to see Pipkins blows, but he's here today for a reason.
this is a good and exciting day for Charger football
congrats to everyone who.made the initial 53

[CivilBolt]

Guys I realize there's a ton of "head scratchers" but given that Staley is new, I think he deserves the intial benefit of the doubt.
No doubting his football acumen, and no doubting every roster decision was 100% intentional
So let's give it a few months before we bury these moves.
It doesn't take a football savant to see Pipkins blows, but he's here today for a reason.
this is a good and exciting day for Charger football
congrats to everyone who.made the initial 53

I agree. I think once the Chargers start piling up convincing wins, all the worries will go away.

[Charge!]

Guys I realize there's a ton of "head scratchers" but given that Staley is new, I think he deserves the intial benefit of the doubt.
No doubting his football acumen, and no doubting every roster decision was 100% intentional
So let's give it a few months before we bury these moves.
It doesn't take a football savant to see Pipkins blows, but he's here today for a reason.
this is a good and exciting day for Charger football
congrats to everyone who.made the initial 53

i agree with most of that but "every" team scand waiver wire looking for upgrades in positions..... you dont cut PIP, Kelley, or Facyson until you find s better replacement.....

[Leslie Grossman]

How long does the waver period last?

[equivocation]

How long does the waver period last?

24 hours.

[Leslie Grossman]

Guessing a tackle will be added by 1 pm. Hope Pipkins moves to guard.

[Xenos]

My question is this: which player is more likely to get poached off waivers, Pipkins or T Billy?

With 5 WRs, if one goes down, we’re gonna wish we still had Johnson. Several players would have to go down before Pip sees action (I hope).

And, with his most recent tape, would any team claim Pip off waivers?

All I’m saying is that we coulda stashed Pipkins on the PS instead. He’d still be there if we needed him.

I would guess Pipkins since OL are more valued than WR.

[Guest]

If Johnson could field punts, he would likely be on the damn team! For now Hill, has a job based on this Factor alone, until they have someone better for it.

Last year was last year and he was okay. You're acting like they need to design their offense around Johnson. If he doesn't fit what they need him to do, within the offensive scheme they are going to run then they get someone else that does. He's a fringe NFL player thus far in his career, and he's has been cut by five different teams. If he actually possessed the game-changing abilities of someone like Hill he sure as hell wouldn't be bouncing around the League like pogo stick.

No, I am saying that they have their heads up their asses if they cannot figure out that the deep pass to Johnson as well as the threat of that pass were great weapons for us last year. The deep pass is a an extreme comparative strength for Herbert versus other QBs. If Lombardi is going to call a bunch of Drew Brees short passes, he is a moron. Herbert's completion percentage will never be at the level of Brees as he is not as accurate as Brees. But Herbert has elite deep passing ability and the ability to make explosive plays is the single most exciting thing about our offense. It is what allows us to get big leads against good teams. It is what allows us to go toe to toe with teams like KC.

Hill sucks--at everything. He has zero dynamic play making ability. I would rather have Johnson and play no punt returner the entire season (which would not produce a result for us much worse than having Hill as our PR will produce). The roster decision is that bad.

[Guest]

I know we’re pretty set at ILB, but I wonder if Staley’s tempted to grab Micah Kiser now that the Rams waived him.

You thinking goal line defense with Kiser?

[Guest]

Holy crap - a couple dozen pages to teach me that the vagaries between a #47 and #57 is the doom of the team.

Chainpucker actually thinks the team got worse just because of a single in his mind WR5. Ignore their new starting LT, completely rebuilt OL save RT, probable starting CB (or nickel), James, Adderley and The TranqGun all back, a promising rookie RB and solid backup OG prospect, a solid edge replacement for a faded no-sack T-Rex along with another interesting smaller but maniacal rush specialist, a true one-gap immovable line-clogging backup NT but no … the loss of a WR5 Tbilly who doesn’t even play STs and his 3 TDs spells the end of the franchise?

Lol … fucking nuts.

Wow. Just wow. You are going very far out of your way to misrepresent my position.

I have discussed one player versus another in isolation of other moves. So when we keep Hill and waive Johnson, then our team most definitely just got worse by virtue of that decision.

I did not say that every draft pick sucked or that every team move sucked or some other made up horse manure nonsense you are shoveling.

That said, your other points are not really examples of improvements for the most part. Even now, Ingram is better than Fackrell. Nwosu has the athleticism to do better than Ingram at this point, but he needs to step up and prove it. Adderley has sucked so far in his career so that represents a bad move by the team as James is the only good safety on the roster. Merrill is an UDFA that should have been cut--really limited range and size related deficiencies.

Johnson only had 26 targets and put up 20 receptions for 398 yards and 3 TDs for a 19.9 yards per reception average. He was incredibly efficient for us last season. His performance strongly suggests that he should have been kept and given more opportunities.

Again, when I suggested that with 60 targets, Palmer might have 480 yards people were practically peeing on themselves to say what great production that would be, but 398 yards on just 26 targets is somehow nothing just as Guyton's 511 yards on 56 targets were meaningless. The inconsistency in the analysis is telling and, frankly, hilarious.