Chargers @ Raiders Game Day Thread / Post Game Discussion (Wk 18)

[Critty]

It's frustrating!. There were missed PI and hold that Raiders actually did and Chargers got some impactful bogus calls.

[Leslie Grossman]

Typical Charger meltdown but they weren't going to beat the Bills anyway.
Wonder if any coach has ever gone for it on 4th and 2 inside their own 20 down 10 or less in the 3rd???
Murray is horrible, what a disaster by Telesco. They only have 2 linebackers(resign White). Wondering if a 3rd linebacker is a bigger need than DT if Jones and Joseph come back.
Both are big needs imo.

[UglyTruth]

They went 30 minutes without scoring and found themselves down by 15 near the end....that's not good.
They put up a ton of yards in desperation time (the final 3 drives); and yet, they were not exactly a smooth oiled motion ....Herbert constantly bailed them
out on 4rth down with some improbable passes.

Except for the two 1rst half scores, the offense looked confused as to how to exploit the Raider D all night.

Yeah I hate how they desperation shit at the end is now gonna make it seem like the offense was some genius tonight. It was crap for the entirety of the 1st, 3rd and half the 4th qtr.

[Go_Herbo]

I do believe that the Raiders would have run the clock out......Game wise, it was the safest thing to do... a blocked field goal could have resulted in a Chargers TD. Why take the risk in a meaningless situation........ but the Timeout by Staley gave them time to think about it... the fans, Madden perhaps, or just pissed that Staley would mess with them.

[powderblueboy]

I agree with you on that particular play, I was referring more to his overall aggressiveness on 4th down all season.

That was even worse than Marty's 4th and 8 against the Pats.

Way worse! Marty asked kaeding if he could make the field goal from there, and kaeding told him 'i don't know'.

Marty said fuck it.

[Berserker76]

i think our defensive problems are more about lack of talent......not scheme.....

but what drives me crazy, is the raiders defense had several ex-chargers who we cut because they flat out sucked..... yet teamer and facsyon(whom every opponent targeted when he was a charger) were batting away passes.....?..... and suddenly they can play as raiders for our previous sucky coach????

that makes no sense....

Yep, wondered about this, too.

[powderblueboy]

Typical Charger meltdown but they weren't going to beat the Bills anyway.
Wonder if any coach has ever gone for it on 4th and 2 inside their own 20 down 10 or less in the 3rd???
Murray is horrible, what a disaster by Telesco. They only have 2 linebackers(resign White). Wondering if a 3rd linebacker is a bigger need than DT if Jones and Joseph come back.
Both are big needs imo.

They weren't going to win on the road in the playoffs....not unless they are gifted by a team that self implodes.
Probably best that they lost tonight.......Telesco will not go into his typical post playoff complacency.

Having pick 17 will be nice.....keeps Telesco away from the 20s.

[jubei]

raiders needed lots of help from refs tonight
1 throw away from a walk-off TD
we have the right qb and hc, yes, I said Headcoach.
just need to Charger Harder in 2022
and use cap space to buy a defense
Sorry this post isn't negative enough but this is year one
stay the course

PS
I will never forget Herbert's gutsy 4th quarter 19 play game tying drive. shades of Rivers and fouts type toughness on that drive.

please do NOT Charger Harder...we all know what chargering means.
But agreed on the 4th qtr drives by Herbert. UNBELIEVABLE the 4th down conversions all on one drive!

[Parcells]

It was a brutal loss, and a mixed season. Honestly, the season I'm reminded of is the 2005 season. We knew we had a decent amount of talent, but we were still missing some pieces and no5 everything was clicking. But we have an absolute stud of a QB, and I'm in the camp of believing in Staley. I think the decision to go for it on fourth down in the third quarter was in part a play on momentum, or trying to get the momentum. It failed, but it's worked other times for us.

Let's just remember that this was year one, and I think we saw a lot of guys on this team have their best season as a pro, which speaks to me that we have solid coaching.

[wu-dai clan]

Well no shit. Who said all they need is a RT?

I been saying for months the defense is the bigger problem

Slater, Feiler.
Not their best game.
I would have liked to seen Pipkins start,
especially after Norton vs Maxx earlier this season.

[wu-dai clan]

https://twitter.com/tonydungy/status...791782402?s=21

this is from Tony Dungy not some conspiracy theorist

League needs to tweak pass interference rules.
It is weird how you can just feel
"attitude" from officials.
These guys were playing to the LVR fans.
The Back Judge with the white sideburns loved calling DPI on us all night.
Him n Referee laughing about it.
Fans of 32 teams are unhappy with the quality of officiating.
Oh the near misses and drops.
Insane performance by Herbert.
Quite a Charger off season coming.

[Cdn Bolt]

When should I update my sig to add yet ANOTHER missed playoffs season under Telesco?

Your signature explains most of the team's problems