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  • blueman
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
    Going right down the line in my Roster Build...

    Daniel has value as coach-player.
    Rachaad White is a receiving, Outside Zone RB to spell Ekeler.
    SAnderson is a handyman FB, HB, TE, ST.
    Lucas Krull is a former pitcher, athletic, competitive, leader, RZ target at TE.
    Parham gets tendered.
    Danny Gray is a speed receiver behind Guyton.
    Joe Noteboom (Rams) gives us bargain, young, experienced depth at Oline.
    Quessenberry is our backup Center.
    Aboushi and Schofield gives us vets for the right side.
    Nwosu should be retained and at a reasonable price.
    Gaziano provides grit and anchor behind Tillery.
    Joseph is our vital run stuffer with reduced snaps and a cheap contract.
    Neil Farrell is a penetrating 1Tech (see above.)
    JJones is our starting 3Tech, via simple honest analysis.
    Vernon Butler (Bills) is a 1.5 gapper 3Tech.
    Josh Paschal has inside-outside flexibility to give us variety looks re run/pass defense.
    KWhite is our sideline to sideline LB deluxe.
    Ryan Smith provides CB depth and ST excellence.
    Jalen Pitre projects to Slot CB/STAR and will read n tackle well.
    Anthony Averett (Ravens) is a speedy, experienced, cheap CB.
    Hopkins has been a needed, steady PK.
    Jake Camarda is a strong-legged, consistent punter, used to pressure at Georgia.
    Overton is a professional Long Snapper.
    Percy Butler is a developmental Combo S who happens to be a Matthew Slater-Kassim Osgood level ST player !
    Jeremiah Moon is a tall, skinny, raw LB to play ST and push K9, Rumph.
    Bo Melton is very fast and can do returns and provide a deep threat.
    JKelley is under contract, and provides value at ST and North-South RB.

    This all leaves money for a Derwin extension
    and a surprise, unpredictable splash signing.

    TY...wu.



    This looks more like you’re building for the future than win now (depth speed receiver behind Guyton??).

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    • Topcat
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      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
      OFFENSE
      QB: Herbert. Daniel*
      RB: Ekeler. Rachaad White*.
      HB: SAnderson*. Nabors.
      TE: McKitty. Lucas Krull*.
      WR#1: MWilliams*. Palmer.
      WR#2: KAllen. Parham**.
      WR#3: Guyton. Danny Gray*.
      OLT: Slater. Joe Noteboom**.
      OLG: Feiler. Jaimes.
      C: Linsley. Quessenberry*
      ORG: Aboushi*. Schofield*
      ORT: Pipkins. Bernhard Raimann*.

      DEFENSE
      EDGE: Nwosu*. Rumph.
      DT: Tillery. Gaziano*.
      1T: Joseph*. Neil Farrell*
      3T: JJones*. Vernon Butler**
      EDGE: Bosa. Josh Paschal*
      LB: KWhite*. Niemann.
      LB: Murray. Tranquill.
      CB: MDavis. Campbell.
      CB: Samuel. Ryan Smith*
      SLOT: Jalen Pitre*. Anthony Averett**
      S: Adderley. Webb.
      S: DJames. Gilman.

      ST
      K: Hopkins*.
      P: Jake Camarda*.
      LS: Overton*.
      Gunner: Ryan Smith*. Percy Butler*.
      Coverage: Rumph. Nabors. Jeremiah Moon*. JKelley.
      KR/PR: Bo Melton*.
      4th DOWN: JKelley.

      55 Total.

      *Draft.
      *In House UFA.
      ** ERFA.
      ** UFA.

      Analysis to follow.

      :woot:
      Not bad, Wood. Noticed Farrell at 1T...had a pretty decent Senior Bowl...good run stuffer...

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      • beachcomber
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        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
        OFFENSE
        QB: Herbert. Daniel*
        RB: Ekeler. Rachaad White*.
        HB: SAnderson*. Nabors.
        TE: McKitty. Lucas Krull*.
        WR#1: MWilliams*. Palmer.
        WR#2: KAllen. Parham**.
        WR#3: Guyton. Danny Gray*.
        OLT: Slater. Joe Noteboom**.
        OLG: Feiler. Jaimes.
        C: Linsley. Quessenberry*
        ORG: Aboushi*. Schofield*
        ORT: Pipkins. Bernhard Raimann*.

        DEFENSE
        EDGE: Nwosu*. Rumph.
        DT: Tillery. Gaziano*.
        1T: Joseph*. Neil Farrell*
        3T: JJones*. Vernon Butler**
        EDGE: Bosa. Josh Paschal*
        LB: KWhite*. Niemann.
        LB: Murray. Tranquill.
        CB: MDavis. Campbell.
        CB: Samuel. Ryan Smith*
        SLOT: Jalen Pitre*. Anthony Averett**
        S: Adderley. Webb.
        S: DJames. Gilman.

        ST
        K: Hopkins*.
        P: Jake Camarda*.
        LS: Overton*.
        Gunner: Ryan Smith*. Percy Butler*.
        Coverage: Rumph. Nabors. Jeremiah Moon*. JKelley.
        KR/PR: Bo Melton*.
        4th DOWN: JKelley.

        55 Total.

        *Draft.
        *In House UFA.
        ** ERFA.
        ** UFA.

        Analysis to follow.

        :woot:
        eye need a bump @RB.... a FA pls
        Anderson/Nabers is two roster spots for not much production
        putting an awful lotta faith in McKitty Kat, Krull 'n Donald.... me prefers a FA here too
        personally am gonna pay the piper @WR to pay for the FAs across the board, including a Guyton FA replacement, on top of an MW replacement in the draft
        outta your 10 Olinemen, my guess is that Pips is the odd man out

        are you expecting different results w/the same DL ?? is that a SB DL ?? two guys who got injured and two others that wore down, and your fifth might be better off as the third wheel as an ED
        same LBs.... same front 7.... same results ??
        Ryan Smith and ASJ both injured, and your hedge is ?? and no fifth S ??

        where is the road to the SB differential in that 55 ??
        RT Taliese Fuaga, DT Jer'Zhan Newton, NT T'Vondre Sweat, LB Cedric Gray, TE Ben Sinnott, RB Daijun Edwards, FS Cole Bishop, QB Joe Milton

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        • Fleet 1
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          QB: MARCUS MARIOTA, LAS VEGAS RAIDERS


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          RB: RAHEEM MOSTERT, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS


          It’s only a matter of time before Mostert follows Mike McDaniel to the Miami Dolphins. McDaniel is going to change Miami to an outside-zone dominant run scheme, which is where Mostert does his best work. The speedy back ranked sixth and 13th among running backs in PFF grade in 2019 and 2020 before suffering a season-ending injury in Week 1 of 2021. Age and injuries are a concern, but when healthy, he’s an elusive, big-play threat.
          WR: RUSSELL GAGE, ATLANTA FALCONS


          This free-agent class is full of quality wide receivers, but there are only so many top guys to go around. Gage is in that next tier of wideouts and should be viewed as a good consolation prize for the teams that lose out on the top options. He became a more featured piece in Atlanta’s offense over the last couple of years and has performed admirably, posting 76.4 and 74.7 PFF grades over the last two seasons. Gage owned an 84.1 receiving grade — ninth in the NFL — from Week 11 on this past season. He’s generated separation against single coverage at an 88th percentile rate since 2020. Any team that needs a receiver that can consistently get open at the short and intermediate levels of the field should target Gage in free agency.
          TE: DALTON SCHULTZ, DALLAS COWBOYS


          Schultz is arguably the best tight end available in free agency, as he’s coming off a season in which he was the sixth-highest-graded and third-most valuable tight end in the NFL. Schultz is good at finding soft spots in zone, doesn't have an extensive injury history, adds value after the catch, wins at the catch point and holds his own in the run game. He ranked sixth or higher at the position last year in drop rate (3.4%), contested catch rate (63.2%, 12/19) and broken tackles after the catch (13). If Dallas is forced to let him walk, a team like Tennessee makes a lot of sense as a landing spot.
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          OT: JOSEPH NOTEBOOM, LOS ANGELES RAMS


          Noteboom should be on the radar for teams that desperately need a tackle but don't have the cap space to target one of the top options in free agency. He doesn’t have a wealth of experience at tackle, but the flashes he has shown the last two seasons, in particular, make him someone teams should target considering the low price he will command.

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          G: CONNOR WILLIAMS, DALLAS COWBOYS


          Yes, I know — the penalties are an issue, as Williams committed an NFL-leading 17 penalties in 2021 that led to being benched for a short stretch during the season. Even with all of those plays baked into the PFF grading system, Williams still finished as a top-10 graded guard for the 2021 season (75.2) and has been one of the NFL’s 15-most valuable guards in back-to-back seasons. The penalties should regress in 2022, as they weren’t an issue before. He’s not going to be one of the five highest-paid guards in free agency and likely will receive something akin to a three-year, $20 million deal. However, it doesn’t matter the scheme, if a team needs a guard, it should pursue Williams over the much pricier options.
          C: BEN JONES, TENNESSEE TITANS


          Jones has consistently been a solid interior offensive lineman in the NFL, as he has never earned a PFF grade above 80.0 in his 10-year NFL career but has also never posted a grade lower than 70.0 outside of his 2012 rookie campaign. He's fared particularly well in recent years, finishing as one of the top five most valuable centers in each of the last three seasons. Tennessee is going to want Jones back, but it could easily get outbid by a team like the Cincinnati Bengals, who are rich in cap space and desperate to improve upfront.
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          DI: CALAIS CAMPBELL, BALTIMORE RAVENS


          This is obviously a name a lot of people know, as Campbell has racked up numerous accolades throughout his NFL career, including an All-Pro appearance, a spot on the 2010s All-Decade Team, six Pro Bowls and the 2019 Walter Payton Man of the Year to name a few. That said, many are starting to put the “washed” tag on the 35-year-old interior defensive lineman. Campbell may not be performing as he did in his prime when he rattled off four straight elite seasons with 90.0-plus grades from 2016 through 2019, but he’s still one of the best players at the position.

          He earned an 80.8 PFF grade last year with the Ravens, which cracked the top 10 among qualifying interior defensive linemen, and his positively graded run play rate trailed only Aaron Donald for the best at the position. The veteran has come close to obtaining a Super Bowl ring but still hasn't hoisted the Lombardi Trophy during his 14 years in the NFL. He is ring chasing at this point in his career, and contenders — such as Buffalo — should strongly consider bringing Campbell in.
          EDGE: RANDY GREGORY, DALLAS COWBOYS


          Gregory has had a rocky NFL career with multiple suspensions, but he was a featured piece on the Cowboys’ defense this past season. He ranked 12th among qualifying edge defenders in pass-rush grade (84.7) and tied for sixth in pressure rate (15.5%). Teams may be cautious to sign Gregory given his history, an offseason knee surgery and role, but there is no denying his special tools. Between his lateral quickness, explosiveness and improved plan, Gregory showed he can generate value as a rotational pass-rusher.
          LB: ALEXANDER JOHNSON, DENVER BRONCOS


          Johnson was having an incredible 2021 campaign before suffering a torn pec in Week 6, as he owned an 81.0 PFF grade and hadn’t missed a tackle on 34 attempts. In 2019 and 2020, he was one of the five highest-graded off-ball linebackers in the league. The 30-year-old’s pro career got off to a late start, but he has more than proven that he belongs as a starting linebacker. Regardless of the scheme, any team with a hole at linebacker should look to bring in Johnson.
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          CB: BRYCE CALLAHAN, DENVER BRONCOS


          The Vic Fangio tree of defenses is spreading like wildfire throughout the NFL, and any of those teams in need of a slot corner — hands down the most under-appreciated position in the game — should call Callahan. He is versatile and can play on the outside in dire situations, but his slot coverage is some of the best in the PFF database, as Callahan is a top-three-graded player in the slot since 2017. Durability has been an issue as of late, but given his projected contract and ceiling when healthy, it wouldn't be surprising if Callahan's performance exceeded his contract value. The Chargers and Vikings stand out as possible suitors.
          S: MARCUS MAYE, NEW YORK JETS


          Maye is going to sign a one-year, prove-it deal in free agency after rupturing his Achilles in the midst of his 2021 campaign. The Jets safety' role changed this past year (specifically, he played far more in the box), which played a part in a dip in PFF grade when on the field, but his multiple seasons of high grades at deep safety should spark draw interest from several teams. Since 2018, Maye owns the second-highest PFF grade at free safety — behind only Kevin Byard.

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          • wu-dai clan
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            Fleet 1 ...

            Calais Campbell & Bryce Callahan
            would be insanely good gets for us.
            IMV.
            :chuckle:

            Of course, I already have Noteboom in my Roster Build.
            We do not play modern football.

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            • wu-dai clan
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              Originally posted by blueman View Post

              This looks more like you’re building for the future than win now (depth speed receiver behind Guyton??).
              Why can't it be both ?
              Don't follow the Vikes model !
              We do not play modern football.

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              • wu-dai clan
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                Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

                eye need a bump @RB.... a FA pls
                Anderson/Nabers is two roster spots for not much production
                putting an awful lotta faith in McKitty Kat, Krull 'n Donald.... me prefers a FA here too
                personally am gonna pay the piper @WR to pay for the FAs across the board, including a Guyton FA replacement, on top of an MW replacement in the draft
                outta your 10 Olinemen, my guess is that Pips is the odd man out

                are you expecting different results w/the same DL ?? is that a SB DL ?? two guys who got injured and two others that wore down, and your fifth might be better off as the third wheel as an ED
                same LBs.... same front 7.... same results ??
                Ryan Smith and ASJ both injured, and your hedge is ?? and no fifth S ??

                where is the road to the SB differential in that 55 ??
                I am building towards a championship.
                We were pretty close this year.
                Let's see how in house signings and free agency go,
                before throwing out wu with the bath water.

                Wait until I unleash Polian's new book on y'all.
                :shock:
                We do not play modern football.

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                • jamrock
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                  Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                  I am building towards a championship.
                  We were pretty close this year.
                  Let's see how in house signings and free agency go,
                  before throwing out wu with the bath water.

                  Wait until I unleash Polian's new book on y'all.
                  :shock:
                  Pretty close? 14 teams made the play offs. We weren’t one of them

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                  • Fleet 1
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                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                    Fleet 1 ...

                    Calais Campbell & Bryce Callahan
                    would be insanely good gets for us.
                    IMV.
                    :chuckle:

                    Of course, I already have Noteboom in my Roster Build.
                    I like it. Draft edge. Was thinking Gregory/Callahan/Campbell.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      Originally posted by blueman View Post

                      This looks more like you’re building for the future than win now (depth speed receiver behind Guyton??).
                       
                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • sonorajim
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                        Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                        Pretty close? 14 teams made the play offs. We weren’t one of them
                        One play away from playoffs.
                        We beat the AFC Champions in regular season.
                        True that we didn't make it. I suspect that we wouldn't have gotten far with our crappy, inconsistent run defense if we had.

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                          Pretty close? 14 teams made the play offs. We weren’t one of them
                          Nonsense.
                          Bird droppings.
                          We do not play modern football.

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