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Joe is the worst OC we've had post Ryan Leaf years. Norv and McCoy at least had comptent offense just had no talent towards the end. Joe is working with the most talented QB we've ever had and he turns into Daniel Jones 2.0 smh Joe needs to go in 2023.
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1. I know that some here always point to the stats claiming that Lombo offense is good!
I would like to use another simple measurement - feedback from fans.
As I recal, there was NO complaint about our 2020 team passing offense...
How about 2021 & 2022 passing offense? Some complaints on 2021 passing offense and so many for 2022...
2. I consider the running game as equal (still suck pretty bad), but our 2020 passing offense is a lot more exciting!
(Our 2022 passing offense is excited in a way - we are always on edge praying / hoping that the ball is not intercepted (since there is so little room for errors)...)
3. I didn't recall Herbert had any batted down ball in 2020, but there are a lot in 2021 & 2022...
4. I didn't recall our WR catching the balls behind 1st down marker in 2020. Now it becomes a norm...
5. Besides, our former OC is doing great in his 2nd year with Hurts in Philly...
(I believe Staley must be regretted, not giving him a chance.
Once his first choice as OC is not available, he should have kept OC & QB coach. If they do not improve, fire them a year later...)
6. Did Lombo offense improve in year 2?
Consider only our first 2 games (before injuries hit), I'd say 'No'...
7. Last, is Lombo offense a fit to Herbert 's abilities? I'd say 'No' again...
(Seeing our former OC did magic with Hurts made me want to fire Lombo today (and that will still be months too late!)...)
Go Bolts!!!
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Originally posted by TTThunder View Post1. I know that some here always point to the stats claiming that Lombo offense is good!
I would like to use another simple measurement - feedback from fans.
As I recal, there was NO complaint about our 2020 team passing offense...
How about 2021 & 2022 passing offense? Some complaints on 2021 passing offense and so many for 2022...
2. I consider the running game as equal (still suck pretty bad), but our 2020 passing offense is a lot more exciting!
(Our 2022 passing offense is excited in a way - we are always on edge praying / hoping that the ball is not intercepted (since there is so little room for errors)...)
3. I didn't recall Herbert had any batted down ball in 2020, but there are a lot in 2021 & 2022...
4. I didn't recall our WR catching the balls behind 1st down marker in 2020. Now it becomes a norm...
5. Besides, our former OC is doing great in his 2nd year with Hurts in Philly...
(I believe Staley must be regretted, not giving him a chance.
Once his first choice as OC is not available, he should have kept OC & QB coach. If they do not improve, fire them a year later...)
6. Did Lombo offense improve in year 2?
Consider only our first 2 games (before injuries hit), I'd say 'No'...
7. Last, is Lombo offense a fit to Herbert 's abilities? I'd say 'No' again...
(Seeing our former OC did magic with Hurts made me want to fire Lombo today (and that will still be months too late!)...)
Go Bolts!!!
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Originally posted by TTThunder View Post1. I know that some here always point to the stats claiming that Lombo offense is good!
I would like to use another simple measurement - feedback from fans.
As I recal, there was NO complaint about our 2020 team passing offense...
How about 2021 & 2022 passing offense? Some complaints on 2021 passing offense and so many for 2022...
2. I consider the running game as equal (still suck pretty bad), but our 2020 passing offense is a lot more exciting!
(Our 2022 passing offense is excited in a way - we are always on edge praying / hoping that the ball is not intercepted (since there is so little room for errors)...)
3. I didn't recall Herbert had any batted down ball in 2020, but there are a lot in 2021 & 2022...
4. I didn't recall our WR catching the balls behind 1st down marker in 2020. Now it becomes a norm...
5. Besides, our former OC is doing great in his 2nd year with Hurts in Philly...
(I believe Staley must be regretted, not giving him a chance.
Once his first choice as OC is not available, he should have kept OC & QB coach. If they do not improve, fire them a year later...)
6. Did Lombo offense improve in year 2?
Consider only our first 2 games (before injuries hit), I'd say 'No'...
7. Last, is Lombo offense a fit to Herbert 's abilities? I'd say 'No' again...
(Seeing our former OC did magic with Hurts made me want to fire Lombo today (and that will still be months too late!)...)
Go Bolts!!!
In 2020, defenses were more aggressive (blitzing) assuming Herbert would struggle like most rookie QBs do.
turns out, he quickly learned how to beat the blitz which accounted for a lot of his amazing deep passes.
last 2 years, defenses have put a stop to that and are forcing him to play smallball, which he excelled at in 2021 with all the healthy bodies and a strong Oline.
I still think Lombardi has to be upgraded but fortunately/unfortunately, Herbert's ability is so great that he could succeed with healthy ribs and a bottom 5 OC
and that's what I think Lombardi is.
My only interest rn is evaluating Staley bc it's clear to me that Herbert is surviving in spite of Lombardi, and not because of him. Any other qb would crumble given Herbert's circumstances in 2022 imo which is why I'm still so impressed with JH.
think of all the elite qbs this season, who could do what Herbert has done with that injury, injuries on O and Lombardi coordinating the offense?
Not Allen, not Mahomes
MAYBE brady, due to his experience and football IQ.P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Henley
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Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post
it's embarrassing, but deserved.P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
P4. Obnoxious Communication - Henley
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Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post
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