POLL: Is It Time To Bench Rivers?

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  • Silversurfer
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    I believe if Shotty stayed coach we would have won one. Would love Urben Meyer as our coach, I think hes only looking at the Cowboys job. That makes Jason Garrett up for grabs lol!

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    • Topcat
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      Originally posted by Silversurfer View Post
      I believe if Shotty stayed coach we would have won one. Would love Urben Meyer as our coach, I think hes only looking at the Cowboys job. That makes Jason Garrett up for grabs lol!
      I remember seeing an interview with LT...he said that he thinks the Bolts had a real decent shot at going to the SB the year after Marty got fired, but because they totally changed up the offense, etc., by hiring Norv, that it set them back...

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      • wu-dai clan
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        Originally posted by jamrock View Post

        49er/Baltimore game is the regular season’s best match up
        What a matchup !
        We do not play modern football.

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        • Silversurfer
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          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

          I remember seeing an interview with LT...he said that he thinks the Bolts had a real decent shot at going to the SB the year after Marty got fired, but because they totally changed up the offense, etc., by hiring Norv, that it set them back...
          Merriman said the same, wonder if he had full reigns if we would have kept Brees.

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          • 21&500
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            Originally posted by Critty
            It is just so frustrating seeing how the team is managed.

            I appreciate Rivers. I think he is a baller.
            My only criticism of him his entire career has been a few too many careless throws and turnovers, and too little mobility. But I did feel he could win Superbowls. I complained often he needed a reliable kicker because he had been burnt by missed FG that stopped a playoff run.

            Then a couple season ago. I thought its time to get a new QB for the future. With the move to LA, I thought it was even more important to get a new face of the franchise.

            I absolutely wanted Lamar Jackson.
            No hindsight at all. I stated he will be a nightmare to defend. He
            will score 40TDs a year. That he can throw for 3500 and run for 1500. Of course traditional thinkers let me know I was wrong. And even those who thought I may be right would say it can't last. He will get hurt playing that way. And that is still possible.

            I argued that he has played that way his entire college career and he seems to be able to avoid the big hit. And even if he only can do it in NFL for 8-10 season before he wears out. And misses some games because of injury. I'm good. I will take that.

            Chargers are just so conservative.
            And Deno seems like if his dad did not give him a football team, the best he could be is a manager at a Denny's. The man fired a 14-2 HC because he needed the GM & HC to be besties.
            The man couldn't sell out a stadium and need ticket guarantee in SD. The man could not find a way to build a stadium himself. From dad giving him the team, city giving him ticket guarantee, to Kronke giving him a new stadium to play in. What has he earned on his own. Actually, im going to pile on.....i dont think he could even earn a manager job at Denny's unless someone gave him the job.

            How in the world does he and his entire front office not see the great opportunity of Lamar Jackson. The excitement, the electric play, the jersey sales. And say we have to draft this kid.

            On TV the pundits are saying nobody saw this coming, nobody thought Lamar could so this.

            I am that nobody. And I am frustrated that the front office didn't have a single nobody demanding Jackson be drafted.

            Problem is....the people on his staff who demand things from the Spanos or insist they do things a different way......get fired. And I'm not just talking about HCs. A consultant gave him advice about team and stadium and he dismissed it saying that is not how he works... the consultant doubled down and insisted Dean change.... that consultant was immediately fired. (See: 2015 Union Tribune article Dean Spanos. Front Man behind the scenes.)

            Just so frustrating and disappointing.

            I don't think they have the guts to go get Joe Burrow, whatever the price. They will settle. They won't change. They will hope to get lucky. And one day they will fire Telesco and promote John Spanos to GM. Only thing stopping that future of young Spanos as GM is if they decide to sell the franchise.
            Perhaps John will figure out how to build a Champion and be willing to do thinga much differently than his dad. But im not expecting it. Im expecting more of the same. Just not good enough, and did not earn it, it was given via nepotism. And the opportunity for championship will be squandered again and again and again.

            Please football Gods, can you somehow, someway have them sell at least majority ownership to someone else....maybe Brees & LeBron can parnter up with other investors and buy the team in 2024.
            Please football Gods, do something. Fix this.




            100%
            same here
            I asked for a brain transplant from Rivers to Jackson.
            this would have been the year to pass the torch.
            P1. Block Destruction - Ogbonnia
            P2. Shocking Effort - Eboigbe
            P3. Ball Disruption - Ford
            P4. Obnoxious Communication - Matlock

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            • Critty
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              Originally posted by Silversurfer View Post

              Merriman said the same, wonder if he had full reigns if we would have kept Brees.
              I think Marty wanted to keep Brees.
              LT said Brees was never going to relinquish the job.
              Who has it better than us?

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              • pacstud
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                So this is the flashback train?

                Cool stories flowin' here.

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                • jamrock
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                  Originally posted by Critty

                  LT answered the question a couple times.

                  He said he believed they would have won it in 2006 if Brees was QB. He said Philip had not played enough (experienced) to get it done. He said it should have been Drews team and a lot of his teammates felt the same way. He said Drew was never going to relinquish the job.

                  He was asked you would of won a Superbowl if.... And he said if the Chargers had kept Marty. He felt they were primed and ready to go. All they had to do was keep the team together.

                  He believe that Brees, Marty and himself would have got it done if the FO kept them together. Well...the GM John Butler may have...but he passed away. AJ did things a little differently.

                  This is the 2006 league MVP saying that is how he felt. A leader in the lockerroom. He also said Rivers seems distracted sometimes. And that its hard to be the guy who leads the team. And in Norv 1st year in the 2007 season when the team started 1-3. LT rallied the team with a players meeting. Basically saying Marty ain't coming back and were too good to be 1-3. Lets go! It wasn't the QB Rivers leading a team meeting, it was LT. Chargers haven't won the AFC West at all since LT left. Maybe LT was right.
                  I’m down with LT. The Chargers fired a coach who just went 14-2. Unprecedented. Never happened before or since. Imagine it

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                  • powderblueboy
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                    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                    I remember seeing an interview with LT...he said that he thinks the Bolts had a real decent shot at going to the SB the year after Marty got fired, but because they totally changed up the offense, etc., by hiring Norv, that it set them back...
                    They changed the defense up also: from Wade to Ted Catrell.

                    Chargers had a shot in 2009 because Ron Rivera was a brilliant defensive coordinator. Only truly good thing Norvell did in his 6 years was bring him in.

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                    • Critty
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                      Originally posted by pacstud View Post
                      So this is the flashback train?

                      Cool stories flowin' here.

                      Charger fanatics posting opinions, reminiscing, thoughts about past present and future.
                      How dare fanatics do such thing.

                      Your such a sourpuss lately.
                      Is someone peeing in your Cheerios every morning?

                      Showing up to throw shade at other Charger fans.
                      Come on Pac, you can do better.
                      Who has it better than us?

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                      • chargeroo
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                        Originally posted by Critty View Post

                        I think Marty wanted to keep Brees.
                        LT said Brees was never going to relinquish the job.
                        I've wondered before - what would have happened if they drafted Fitzgerald instead of Rivers? That would have forced them to keep Brees, giving them a great QB, RB, and WR.
                        THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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                        • Critty
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                          Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

                          I've wondered before - what would have happened if they drafted Fitzgerald instead of Rivers? That would have forced them to keep Brees, giving them a great QB, RB, and WR.
                          Gates-TE too.
                          That would have been special.
                          Who has it better than us?

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