POLL: Should The Bolts Trade Up For Tua?

[Steve]

I have to say.......there are MANY here that were very down on Verrett for being hurt all the time, down on Perryman and wanted them to sign him to a vet minimum, down on Lamp...called him a bust, Henry...didnt want to resign him, etc....so i am like WTF, ... seeing posters here wanting to draft Tua KNOWING he is a China doll from COLLEGE! You think he is going to hold up in the NFL?

Just SMH seeing this. He is gonna be injured all the time too....say No to Tua, draft Simmons, Thomas, Herbert...trade down for Herbert...whatever. But dont draft Tua @ #6. He cant help you from the sideline or from the trainers room. He has shown he gets injured every season.

Some will say he may not get injured in the NFL...well Geezus, is that chance worth the 6th overall pick? I say Dang Gum, shooot hec No.

He played behind a dominant OL against teams that had few or only 1 pass rusher per team. He also played in a shorter season. He is GOING to get hit MORE OFTEN and HARDER than in college. That is for anyone, not just behind our OL. His style of play makes him vulnerable to it. He holds the ball to long, but that is where so many of those spectacular TD's come from. If you force him to become a west coast, throw the ball away after 3 seconds, get rid of the ball quickly, is he going to be the same guy?

Answer this rhetorical question. What is the first thought that goes through your head when you hear the NFL team we are playing this week is without their starting QB?

I know every former NFL player

(because I have asked several)

thinks, "we" should definitely win this game, they don't have a chance unless we give it to them. That is the scenario Tua sets us up for. Boltjolt is right. If people cannot stand injuries in other positions, the QB position is even less tolerant than any other position.

And his second point, we have drafted a lot of players who turn out to be china dolls, when they had ZERO injury history in college. Tua has a very extensive injury history from college.

[Boltjolt]

The finger/hand injury that is listed above as a thumb, is now being reported as a broken wrist that needed surgery. Rex Ryan and others are reporting it that way. Alabama was able to cover it up because it was spring practice.

I see, another bad injury
. To those saying if his hip comes back as no lingering injury..... I don't understand that logic.

He is injury prone. He has 2 ACLs he hasn't tore YET. Who knows what else gets injured. Collarbones, separated shoulders, ribs, ....who knows.

I don't want to waste #6 on that and certainly wouldn't trade up for him. We aren't talking the next Peyton Manning here.

He was at Alabama 3 years and had 4 surgeries, never played a whole college game schedule....which is a lot shorter than a NFL schedule.

[Steve]

Dont see the broken wrist that Lamebardo mentioned. I think that was in practice when Hurts was starting? Not sure when that took place...or maybe it was the reported broken finger that was really a wrist?

The finger/hand injury that is listed above as a thumb, is now being reported as a broken wrist that needed surgery. Rex Ryan and others are reporting it that way. Alabama was able to cover it up because it was spring practice.

[powderblueboy]

Hard to argue the guy’s talent, yes. Not scared of the injury concerns? Good for you, I flip flop on that daily lol.

if i doctors tell me the hip injury will not be an issue,
& i think he's a perennial pro bowler if he stays healthy, i'd take the gamble;

if i think he's just below that level, or the hip might be a lingering issue, i don't take the gamble.


He's a risk, but the reward part has to be there. I personally am more uncertain about his arm strength than others (& less about ankle sprains).


i'd be on board if drafted.

[blueman]

I would be happy if the Chargers went all in on Tua, even if a trade up is necessary. If Tua get's drafted before the Chargers pick, go for Either Herbert or Love with the 1st pick, but again do what ever it takes to get Tua, and a QB with the first round pick. Guys its time to get a QB here now in this draft that can be the franchise QB. Otherwise you go after the Saints back up QB or the Texans QB in a trade. Bet Simmons is gone before 6, the OT should be there tho and the Chargers for sure need another OT.

Hard to argue the guy’s talent, yes. Not scared of the injury concerns? Good for you, I flip flop on that daily lol.

[like54ninjas]

I would be happy if the Chargers went all in on Tua, even if a trade up is necessary. If Tua get's drafted before the Chargers pick, go for Either Herbert or Love with the 1st pick, but again do what ever it takes to get Tua, and a QB with the first round pick. Guys its time to get a QB here now in this draft that can be the franchise QB. Otherwise you go after the Saints back up QB or the Texans QB in a trade. Bet Simmons is gone before 6, the OT should be there tho and the Chargers for sure need another OT.

Welcome and good to have you @TPB.

[electricgold]

Recent mocks has Miami not picking Tua, and Chargers drafting Tua at 6
Hope we stay at 6 (do not trade up)
A .-Tua
B.- Simmons
C.- OT
D.- Trade down and pick OT

I would be happy if the Chargers went all in on Tua, even if a trade up is necessary. If Tua get's drafted before the Chargers pick, go for Either Herbert or Love with the 1st pick, but again do what ever it takes to get Tua, and a QB with the first round pick. Guys its time to get a QB here now in this draft that can be the franchise QB. Otherwise you go after the Saints back up QB or the Texans QB in a trade. Bet Simmons is gone before 6, the OT should be there tho and the Chargers for sure need another OT.

[beachcomber]

this is not the 2004 draft.... there are not three franchise QBs here.

this is (much) more like the 2005 draft.... Alex Smith/Joe Burrow is the guy/apple of their eye, and.... Fromm is not Rodgers, but he is the other good QB that won't go near the top.

just don't think the other guys are worth the risk.... too much talent @OT, WR, WIL, RB to flush a(nother) pick away on a maybe QB ?? !!

[Boltjolt]

There's been a lot of talk about the possibility of the Bolts, in need of a QB, trading up for Tua. While there's no doubting Tua's talent, when you look at his injury history, and especially that last serious hip injury, it's several red flags following by a BIG red flag. Look at all of Tua's injuries so far:

March 2018: Tua Tagovailoa breaks his finger

October 2018: Tua Tagovailoa suffers knee injury

November 2018: Quad injury keeps Tua out of a game

December 2018: Tua Tagovailoa injures his left ankle

Against Tennessee, Tua Tagovailoa suffers another ankle injury

November, 2019: Tagovailoa suffered a dislocated hip with a posterior wall fracture

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ne/4064454002/

On that last injury, there's more cause for concern:

"It’s the potential complications that make predicting a complete or full recovery back to pre-injury conditions difficult to determine at the moment.

“The thing that makes it uncertain is that when the hip dislocates and it fractures off part of the cup part of the hip joint,” Lowe explained Saturday, “(and) sometimes it disrupts the blood supply to the end of the femur — the lower leg part of the hip joint.”

That is what is called avascular necrosis (AVN) and is what forced legendary Auburn running back Bo Jackson to retire from both football and baseball in the early 1990s, and eventually led to severe arthritis and the need for a hip replacement at the age of 29."

Sorry, Tua looks like damaged goods to me, with a high likelihood of injury in the future.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ma/4234279002/

Dont see the broken wrist that Lamebardo mentioned. I think that was in practice when Hurts was starting? Not sure when that took place...or maybe it was the reported broken finger that was really a wrist?

[Boltjolt]

I have to say.......there are MANY here that were very down on Verrett for being hurt all the time, down on Perryman and wanted them to sign him to a vet minimum, down on Lamp...called him a bust, Henry...didnt want to resign him, etc....so i am like WTF, ... seeing posters here wanting to draft Tua KNOWING he is a China doll from COLLEGE! You think he is going to hold up in the NFL?

Just SMH seeing this. He is gonna be injured all the time too....say No to Tua, draft Simmons, Thomas, Herbert...trade down for Herbert...whatever. But dont draft Tua @ #6. He cant help you from the sideline or from the trainers room. He has shown he gets injured every season.

Some will say he may not get injured in the NFL...well Geezus, is that chance worth the 6th overall pick? I say Dang Gum, shooot hec No.

[rikardo]

Recent mocks has Miami not picking Tua, and Chargers drafting Tua at 6
Hope we stay at 6 (do not trade up)
A .-Tua
B.- Simmons
C.- OT
D.- Trade down and pick OT

[gzubeck]

I say we go mostly in on defense and turn ourselves into top 3 D. Then sign winston. Why? because after he throws a stupid pick we have numerous three and outs and get the ball back! Lots of throwing lots of excitement! Lots of back and forth Folly! Good Fun! :>)