Justin Herbert - Bolts Franchise QB Official Discussion

[equivocation]

Rivers was a great if inconsistent QB for us. Part of the inconsistency was his physical limitations combined with his...high energy personality.

Herbert clearly has a higher ceiling and I think his cooler head is more suited to a championship mentality.

[gzubeck]

Fun video for new Herbert Invitational.

[PR#1]

Part of the problem is we had a running backs coach as our head coach determined to run the ball on 1st and 2nd down.

This put Herbert in 3rd and long situations frequently.

One of the best things to look forward to this season is just better play calling

[chargeroo]

Part of the problem is we had a running backs coach as our head coach determined to run the ball on 1st and 2nd down.

This put Herbert in 3rd and long situations frequently.

One of the best things to look forward to this season is just better play calling

Part of the problem is we had a running backs coach as our head coach determined to run the ball on 1st and 2nd down.

This put Herbert in 3rd and long situations frequently.

One of the best things to look forward to this season is just better play calling

I don't think the proportion of runs to pass was out of whack. The problem was that our OL couldn't block well for the run and our Hc kept running in spite of that fact. Our RB's were being hit behind to line of scrimmage. If the new OL can run block better we won't complain so much about the runs because they will gain yards and make third down conversations easier.

[like54ninjas]

[like54ninjas]

[equivocation]

I don't think the proportion of runs to pass was out of whack. The problem was that our OL couldn't block well for the run and our Hc kept running in spite of that fact. Our RB's were being hit behind to line of scrimmage. If the new OL can run block better we won't complain so much about the runs because they will gain yards and make third down conversations easier.

We ran 75% of the time on second and short. Rather than use the favorable situation to play to strength and spread out the defense, we ran into a waiting defense. If we passed 60% of the time in that situation, the 40% of runs would have been much more successful.

It's even harder for a bad OL to run block when the opposing defense knows you're running.

[like54ninjas]

We ran 75% of the time on second and short. Rather than use the favorable situation to play to strength and spread out the defense, we ran into a waiting defense. If we passed 60% of the time in that situation, the 40% of runs would have been much more successful.

It's even harder for a bad OL to run block when the opposing defense knows you're running.

Not having such strong/exaggerated tendencies need to be part of the analytics game management.
With Staley having that person in his ear, he needs to be listened to.

[Guest]

I don't think the proportion of runs to pass was out of whack. The problem was that our OL couldn't block well for the run and our Hc kept running in spite of that fact. Our RB's were being hit behind to line of scrimmage. If the new OL can run block better we won't complain so much about the runs because they will gain yards and make third down conversations easier.

I disagree. Knowing that we were a horrible running team, Lynn and company insisted on running the ball 53% of the time on first down. As the worst run blocking team in the league and with our receiving weapons and Herbert, we should have been right at the top of the league in terms of pass versus run percentage on all downs. We were nowhere close. That is what made our distribution out of whack (versus what it should have been).

[chargeroo]

I disagree. Knowing that we were a horrible running team, Lynn and company insisted on running the ball 53% of the time on first down. As the worst run blocking team in the league and with our receiving weapons and Herbert, we should have been right at the top of the league in terms of pass versus run percentage on all downs. We were nowhere close. That is what made our distribution out of whack (versus what it should have been).

I guess I didn't make myself clear. I'm well aware that the mix didn't work last year but I'm saying with a better OL that the same mix will be okay. I'm trusting the OL will be capable of providing some holes for the RB and I'm assuming our new OC will know you can't always run on 2nd and short.

[Maniaque 6]

We ran 75% of the time on second and short. Rather than use the favorable situation to play to strength and spread out the defense, we ran into a waiting defense. If we passed 60% of the time in that situation, the 40% of runs would have been much more successful.

It's even harder for a bad OL to run block when the opposing defense knows you're running.

It's unequivocal !

[Guest]

I guess I didn't make myself clear. I'm well aware that the mix didn't work last year but I'm saying with a better OL that the same mix will be okay. I'm trusting the OL will be capable of providing some holes for the RB and I'm assuming our new OC will know you can't always run on 2nd and short.

On a team with Justin Herbert at QB and Allen, Williams, Ekeler, Cook, Parham, Guyton and Johnson as receiving options, I can't get behind running the ball 53% of the time on first down even with a better OL. Ekeler is not a heavy workload RB and those better OL players will also be better at pass blocking. I think that with consistent time to throw, Herbert will absolutely shred defenses, which will be fun to watch.

I would love to see us put fear into our opponents by very aggressively attacking them through the air. I would love to see the Belichick game management system of keeping our foot on the gas pedal throughout the game. I never want to see run-run-pass-punt-let our opponent back into the game again. I want us throwing to get first downs even late in games with a significant lead. Getting first downs is what allows the team to run the clock, not running the ball just for the sake of running the ball as our previous boneheaded HC seemed to think.