Justin Herbert - Bolts Franchise QB Official Discussion

[Topcat]

And yet the QB who won the Super Bowl threw more INTs in the regular season than Herbert, who had 15. Derek Carr had one fewer INT than Herbert and Mahomes had two fewer. Big deal.

It's like saying the Titanic had better deck chairs than the Lusitania...

[Velo]

It's like saying the Titanic had better deck chairs than the Lusitania...

The Titanic sunk in 2 hours 40 minutes. The Lusitania sunk in 20 minutes.

[Velo]

Open this link (Peter King's MMQB) and scroll down to item #2. There may be some difficulty retaining Herbert after his rookie contract. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ia-peter-king/

The guarantees in the contract the Browns gave to Deshaun Watson are unprecedented and now may become precedent for future superstar QB contracts. Such guarantees is going to require teams to carry more millions in escrow and the Chargers are a cash poor team. Dean Spanos' sister and her sons already have Dean in court for diverting money from the family trust to cover the cost of operating the Chargers. The trust is not able to cover its other obligations as a result. This could get ugly if the Chargers have to give Herbert huge guarantees in his next contract.

[Boltgang74]

If they let Herbert go cuz the SpAnus clan is too broke to afford a Good QB then I will officially quit as a fan until they sell the team to an actual legitimate owner.Fingers crossed they arent that disgustingly pathetic but....

[21&500]

That would be an Fn nightmare.

[Boltjolt]

If they let Herbert go cuz the SpAnus clan is too broke to afford a Good QB then I will officially quit as a fan until they sell the team to an actual legitimate owner.Fingers crossed they arent that disgustingly pathetic but....

Curious which team you would go to?
I'd really struggle with that myself and I'll say if ANY OTHER team went to Las Vegas other than the Raiders, I'd be a fan of that team right now.

Let me add I don't think the Chargers will let Herbert get away

[equivocation]

Open this link (Peter King's MMQB) and scroll down to item #2. There may be some difficulty retaining Herbert after his rookie contract. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ia-peter-king/

The guarantees in the contract the Browns gave to Deshaun Watson are unprecedented and now may become precedent for future superstar QB contracts. Such guarantees is going to require teams to carry more millions in escrow and the Chargers are a cash poor team. Dean Spanos' sister and her sons already have Dean in court for diverting money from the family trust to cover the cost of operating the Chargers. The trust is not able to cover its other obligations as a result. This could get ugly if the Chargers have to give Herbert huge guarantees in his next contract.

That's not what the article actually says. You can infer it, but it actually says teams will argue against thatclevel of guarantee.

If teams have to get tid of players because of escrow accounts the salary cap structure is officially broken. Teams have guaranteed cash flow to cover the costs. Just screw the eacrow.

[equivocation]

And if he won't agree to a contract the franchise can swing (which I doubt) there is the 5th year option plus 2 years of franchise tag. That's 5 more years of contract control at WELL below market rate.

[Velo]

That's not what the article actually says. You can infer it, but it actually says teams will argue against thatclevel of guarantee.

If teams have to get tid of players because of escrow accounts the salary cap structure is officially broken. Teams have guaranteed cash flow to cover the costs. Just screw the eacrow.

You didn't read my comment very well, because I stated what the article said accurately. I said it may become a precedent, and you know as well as I do that if Watson got a fully guaranteed contract the agents for Burrow and Herbert are going to demand the same. You know as well as I do, once a precedent has been breached, there is no going back.

However, I do agree with you that if teams like the Bengals and Chargers can't afford to keep their stars because they can't maintain that much money in an escrow account, the NFL will step in and fix it, because, as you say, the parity structure of the salary cap will be broken.

[Boltgang74]

Curious which team you would go to?
I'd really struggle with that myself and I'll say if ANY OTHER team went to Las Vegas other than the Raiders, I'd be a fan of that team right now.

Let me add I don't think the Chargers will let Herbert get away

Agreed that NO ownership could be that pathetic even the spanos clan.Herbert IS the franchise now.If they did prove to be that inept and actually let him walk I would wander the nfl landscape teamless until those hapless losers did the right thing and sold.That truly would be the lowpoint for this team in my opinion.

[gzubeck]

Deshaun is raping the Browns just like he misused his Masseuses. Three years guarantee should be enough for any player. If not time to trade for 4 first rounders.

[MagicMamba88]