Justin Herbert - Bolts Franchise QB Official Discussion

[dmac_bolt]

It's really a shame that media guys don't give JH more of a benefit of the doubt and instead play amateur, sports psychologists.
It's a lazy take based off a few uninformed opinions, not to mention, outside their scope (assuming being a journeyman career backup is a "scope")

lol well said. its like the long-running "reason" that Daniel was here was supposedly to mentor Herbie to be an elite QB and teach him how to thrive in Lombo's offense. Like, what the fuck does Daniel know about being an elite QB or executing Lombo's offense in a real game? was it because he watched a different elite QB, or because he stood on the sideline while he lit up the field playing Lombos offense (which wasnt even lombo's offense, but thats a different matter)?

shit, if thats the criteria, there were a LOT of possible mentors for Herbie. There were 80 or 90 people on the sideline of every Saints game when Drew played lol. go get the fucking ball boy, he saw it all too!

[DerwinBosa]

This will come to the dismay of dmac and Velo, but it looks like Justin Herbert really is trying to be more like Philip Rivers.

[dmac_bolt]

This will come to the dismay of dmac and Velo, but it looks like Justin Herbert really is trying to be more like Philip Rivers.

Lol - oh herbie, why!?!?

[SuperCharged]

Damn he talks fast! I love Herbert! He is very smart, humble, and is the prototype NFL Quarterback.

I think he is going to have a stellar year.

[dmac_bolt]

[Heatmiser]

Chargers QB Justin Herbert's updated throwing mechanics at OTAs

Juliette Jones


As the Chargers work their way through four weeks of OTAs, we’re seeing some exciting new players stand out and the team culture flourish. Everyone is hungry for kickoff and ready to seek redemption after the previous year’s heartbreaking ending. Over the course of the 2022 season, the Bolts had their struggles; from injuries to the offensive scheme, it wasn’t an easy road to the playoffs – and someone who saw less production because of this was quarterback Justin Herbert.

Since entering the league in 2020, Herbert has stood out among young quarterbacks; touting impressive stat lines, athleticism, and an elite pocket presence. In 2021, he remained one of the top 5 – and more often than not top 2 – quarterbacks in the league in nearly every possible stat. The expectation was that production would continue to increase, but with a rib injury, an injured roster, and a scheme that failed to highlight his best qualities – the production dropped. Yet through these highs and lows in his first 3 years, one thing has been consistent: his throwing mechanics.

For his first three seasons, Herbert’s throwing mechanics was that of a low-release side-arm variety. The side-arm throw is a mechanic that quarterbacks, like Patrick Mahomes use as a means of passing around a defensive player or as a tricky pass when scrambling to the right. We saw Herbert execute many of these passes in 2020 and 2021. Still, the mechanic continued to embed itself into his overall throwing motion in the 2022 season – which could have been a byproduct of his rib injury or just a general coaching strategy on Shane Day’s part. As we continue to watch Herbert in OTAs this summer, we can see a clear change in the way he passes the football. His release is higher, the arc of the pass is lifted, and thankfully the velocity is still of an elite caliber.

This is very good news for Chargers fans this coming season. With a healthy wide receiver corps to work with and an exciting new scheme from offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, the uptick in Herbert’s production should be highly noticeable. At 6-foot-6, Herbert stands tall behind his offensive line but struggled with batted balls because of his lower release and a more predictable offense in 2022. The high release should limit the amount of batted balls we see this coming season since the release point of his passes will come close to reaching eight feet above the ground – much too high for most defensive linemen to get a hand on. On top of this, Moore’s projected offensive scheme will allow Herbert to uncork deeper passes in a more complex playbook which will increase his yards per play as well as allow his new high release point to hit that 8-foot maximum as frequently as possible.

Almost every elite quarterback we see in the NFL ends up working on their mechanics, ultimately increasing their success likelihood and their stat line. We saw this happen when Josh Allen had the opportunity to focus on his mechanics with now Giants head coach Brian Daboll. Immediately after working on his mechanics, Allen was executing MVP-level seasons and leading his team to the playoffs year in and year out. Daboll continued this quarterback success by elevating the mechanics and production of Daniel Jones in 2022. This type of work bodes well for the future of Herbert and the team as a whole for seasons to come.

Rich, thanks for posting this. I noticed Herbert throwing sidearm the majority of last season. I was hoping it was a concession to his rib injury. I know many QB like the accuracy that side arm throws bring, but for Herbert it robs him of a lot of the elite arm talent he has. So glad they are addressing it.

TG

[richpjr]

Rich, thanks for posting this. I noticed Herbert throwing sidearm the majority of last season. I was hoping it was a concession to his rib injury. I know many QB like the accuracy that side arm throws bring, but for Herbert it robs him of a lot of the elite arm talent he has. So glad they are addressing it.

TG

His rib injury was pretty bad and lasted a long time and there is no way it did not have an effect on his throwing motion. Looking for big, big things from a healthy Herbert with some speed at WR and an OC who looks to take advantage of it.

[NashBolt]

His rib injury was pretty bad and lasted a long time and there is no way it did not have an effect on his throwing motion. Looking for big, big things from a healthy Herbert with some speed at WR and an OC who looks to take advantage of it.

Yes, with a healthy Herbert and the rest of the offense healthy, with Moore's direction I am pretty pumped up for this season to start !

[Boltx]

His rib injury was pretty bad and lasted a long time and there is no way it did not have an effect on his throwing motion. Looking for big, big things from a healthy Herbert with some speed at WR and an OC who looks to take advantage of it.

We'll see if the batted balls decrease or not. Don't remind if it was a big an issue in 2020 or 2021.

[Velo]

His rib injury was pretty bad and lasted a long time and there is no way it did not have an effect on his throwing motion. Looking for big, big things from a healthy Herbert with some speed at WR and an OC who looks to take advantage of it.

Let's hope.

[dmac_bolt]

We'll see if the batted balls decrease or not. Don't remind if it was a big an issue in 2020 or 2021.

Herbie completed 68% in 2022. 65% in 2021. The batted ball phobia is a bit overblown, but as always I am impressed by his relentless effort for even greater greatness.

[Topcat]

lol well said. its like the long-running "reason" that Daniel was here was supposedly to mentor Herbie to be an elite QB and teach him how to thrive in Lombo's offense. Like, what the fuck does Daniel know about being an elite QB or executing Lombo's offense in a real game? was it because he watched a different elite QB, or because he stood on the sideline while he lit up the field playing Lombos offense (which wasnt even lombo's offense, but thats a different matter)?

shit, if thats the criteria, there were a LOT of possible mentors for Herbie. There were 80 or 90 people on the sideline of every Saints game when Drew played lol. go get the fucking ball boy, he saw it all too!

I was never all that impressed with Daniel...