The Melvin Gordon Saga - Holdout Over

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  • Sgt. Pepper
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    • Apr 2019
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    As an example, vs PIT. last year
    We were very, very fortunate to win this one.
    It decided who got in the tournament.
    We really needed MG.
    Austin got stuffed.
    The winning point is that
    Ekeler is such a perfect COP w/Melvin.
    Here's our SB shot...right now.
    TT, don't Weddle Gordon.
    Talk to Fletcher.
    Melvin, tell Fletcher to get this done, and soon.
    And I would expect Gordon to completely go off
    with any semblance of decent Oline play in'19.
    You have concluded based on one game that Ekeler is only suited to be a complimentary back?

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    • richpjr
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      • Jun 2013
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      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
      If we are to compete for and win the Lombardi this year, will must outscore such teams as KC, NE, LAR, NO.

      We have a bite at the apple here.

      It is not time for anyone, fans, MG's agents, or FO to make a statement about tough, hard nosed contract negotiating.

      All sides must compromise.

      Get real.
      It's also not time to overpay a guy already under contract, especially when we have little cap space and more important players that will need to be extended. TT warned everyone previously that the team would love to extend MG but that the cap space was going to be an issue. The fact that Gordon pulls this crap after the draft and FA period makes me less included to want to extend him, not more. Let him sit.

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      • Boltjolt
        Dont let the PBs fool ya
        • Jun 2013
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        Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post

        Speed and size has its uses in a running back. Jeremy Cox probably can be successful in a limited role in specific situations, as long as he is not asked to do too much.
        Maybe but he has to get in line with guys that have NFL experience. Too many posters put too much emphasis on a guys speed. A good 40 does not guarantee NFL success.
        Keenan Allen is not going to win many foot races but is a top WR in the league

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        • Sgt. Pepper
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          Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

          There are always are exceptions but there aren't a lot of them. Most that size have been injured often when tryijgtto be the guy. McCaffrey was durable last season but that can catch up with him any time now.

          Freeman was hurt alot last season after two years of more of a feature RB. In 2017 his ypc fell a lot too from 4.8 to 4.0.
          Can Ekeker do it for a year? Maybe but he excels in the role he has now.
          Just trade Gordon for Chris Carson and swap picks, or give a lower round pick or something. They can swing something but trades don't seem to be TT's forte.
          Remember Maurice Jones Drew? Was good as any running back in the NFL in his prime. Led the league in rushing in 2011. Remember Ray Rice? He was consistently one of the top rushers in the league until his career got derailed by domestic abuse issues. Frank Gore is a bit larger than Ekeler but not by much. Maybe an inch taller and 10 lbs heavier, that's it.

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          • wu-dai clan
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            • May 2017
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            Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post

            You have concluded based on one game that Ekeler is only suited to be a complimentary back?
            It is not a conclusion, but an educated guess.
            If this were to work, and it may have to,
            it would be with Justin Jackson as the feature back and Ekeler as the COP.
            FWIW Sgt Pepper, I was all over the predraft Ekeler intel, right after his epic private workout.
            And I studied thoroughly Justin Jackson, going back to his junior season.
            The point being that I have liked these dudes for a long time.
            JJ dosen't get beat up when he runs, and Ekeler does.
            This is based on running style.
            Also, I want to take full advantage of Ekeler's truly elite speed and explosion.
            Big plays from RBs can help our Oline tremendously.
            Opposing pass rushers must respect and not tee off.
            I know you see it different Sir, and respect your takes.
            We do not play modern football.

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            • blueman
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              • Jun 2013
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              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

              As an example, vs PIT. last year
              We were very, very fortunate to win this one.
              It decided who got in the tournament.
              We really needed MG.
              Austin got stuffed.
              The winning point is that
              Ekeler is such a perfect COP w/Melvin.
              Here's our SB shot...right now.
              TT, don't Weddle Gordon.
              Talk to Fletcher.
              Melvin, tell Fletcher to get this done, and soon.
              And I would expect Gordon to completely go off
              with any semblance of decent Oline play in'19.
              I dunno, how does he come back from the disrespect card? You play that, you can't go back easily, if at all.

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              • Formula 21
                The Future is Now
                • Jun 2013
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                The ability to avoid the big hit goes a long ways towards staying healthy in this league. And Ekeler has that ability.
                Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                The Wasted Decade is done.
                Build Back Better.

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                  It's also not time to overpay a guy already under contract, especially when we have little cap space and more important players that will need to be extended. TT warned everyone previously that the team would love to extend MG but that the cap space was going to be an issue. The fact that Gordon pulls this crap after the draft and FA period makes me less included to want to extend him, not more. Let him sit.
                  This is an impasse.
                  Compromise.
                  And I definitely want to build a killer defense.
                  Be cap smart, yes.
                  One thing though, richpjr.
                  I think Melvin was hoping like hell for an extension before now.
                  The timing is both chickenshit AND unavoidable IMV.
                  We do not play modern football.

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                  • Topcat
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                    • Jan 2019
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                    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                    My way too early prediction is we will need to score 45.

                    We play them late, so hopefully the evidence against Tyreek will be unsealed.
                    Adderley playing high will be a LOT better covering Tyreek than Addae...this time, our corners will actually get decent safety help...add to that better coverage LB's this year, AND Tillery bringing the heat, and Mahomes is going to have a tougher time against the Bolt D this year...
                    Last edited by Topcat; 07-21-2019, 03:29 PM.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                      Adderley playing high will be a LOT better covering Tyreek than Addae...this time, our corners will actually get decent safety help...
                      cat, I do not think Deion Sanders could cover Tyreek.
                      And he's got Mahomes throwing to him.
                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • jamrock
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                        • Sep 2017
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                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                        It is not a conclusion, but an educated guess.
                        If this were to work, and it may have to,
                        it would be with Justin Jackson as the feature back and Ekeler as the COP.
                        FWIW Sgt Pepper, I was all over the predraft Ekeler intel, right after his epic private workout.
                        And I studied thoroughly Justin Jackson, going back to his junior season.
                        The point being that I have liked these dudes for a long time.
                        JJ dosen't get beat up when he runs, and Ekeler does.
                        This is based on running style.
                        Also, I want to take full advantage of Ekeler's truly elite speed and explosion.
                        Big plays from RBs can help our Oline tremendously.
                        Opposing pass rushers must respect and not tee off.
                        I know you see it different Sir, and respect your takes.
                        Ekeler has been on the team for 2 years. If he was a better #1 than MG III he wouldve been starting. He's better suited as a change of pace back. The staff knows this.

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                        • jamrock
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                          • Sep 2017
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                          Originally posted by Sgt. Pepper View Post

                          You don't know that, do you? Ekeler has only been in the league 2 years and has only been used as a complimentary back. He's never had the opportunity to prove himself as a feature back. But his yards-per-carry and yards per target in the passing game both exceeded Gordon's last season.
                          Yeah I sorta do and more importantly so does the coaching staff

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