Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[richpjr]

This isn't the correct question to be asking. KVN obviously can still play, so why didn't TT make quality depth at a critical position a priority and get him locked up before anyone else? Like - in training camp? Why does he continue to rely on Rumph as 'quality' depth, when he's clearly nothing of the sort, and has not ever been?

Now - hypothetically;
KVN's at the end of his career, and like all these guys wants to go out a winner, so he may have been approached by any number of teams, including the Chargers, but he held out until the right team came asking. If the right team didn't call - he just stays retired. Hard to disagree with the way it's worked out for him. So maybe TT did make an effort to bring him in, but after playing for the Chargers KVN knew what the team was all about and wanted to upgrade, so he said no thanks - I'll wait? Who knows - it's plausible.

I refuse to give TT a pass for not realizing what he had (or didn't have) in Rumph. Rumph's had enough time to show us what he's all about . . . . . . . . . . . . . . and he's all about taking up a roster spot - not much different than McKitty from a perspective of productivity . . . . . . . . .

Same question as to jamrock - why did all other 31 teams pass on him as well? There are a lot of teams that needed help on the dline and every single one passed on him. Every single one.

[Lefty2SLO]

Not really, a few here a criticizing TT for not re-signing him, yet all other 31 GMs in the league passed on him as well. Do they deserve criticism as well? Or is the love just centered on TT?

Maybe the other 31 GM's were in a different place with their teams? And had different priorities?

We're talking specifically about the Chargers situation and their opportunity to get a good player onto the roster - one who apparently wanted to be here, and displace a 'not so good' player in the process. Isn't that how you get better?

It's an obvious no-brainer - so why didn't it happen?

[NOrvMeNow]

From the article:

Davis described the first four games as "a little bit shaky" for the defensive backs due to him and Jackson competing for the starting job each week.

"It was kind of just the unknown. Now that he's not here, everybody knows their own role," Davis said. "The roles are defined now, so to speak. The roles before weren't defined for anybody. There were a lot of moving parts."

Then they should shut down the Jets tonight.

[NOrvMeNow]

Maybe the other 31 GM's were in a different place with their teams? And had different priorities?

We're talking specifically about the Chargers situation and their opportunity to get a good player onto the roster - one who apparently wanted to be here, and displace a 'not so good' player in the process. Isn't that how you get better?

It's an obvious no-brainer - so why didn't it happen?

The thinking may have been to not bring in a 30+ guy with a lot of wear and tear, because these guys don't do well in December/January.

Not my thinking.

[wu-dai clan]

Brandon Staley and I have been waiting for a very long time,
for the concept of buulding a winning defense around Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack.

Tonight, Staley's vision came to fruition.

Keep it up.

[jamrock]

Same question as to jamrock - why did all other 31 teams pass on him as well? There are a lot of teams that needed help on the dline and every single one passed on him. Every single one.

Because they all blew it doesn’t give you a pass for blowing it. Distinguish yourself. Be different. That’s what winners do

[wu-dai clan]

I have posited this before. KVN was signed by the Chargers to play Off Ball LB. They then made a firm commitment to develop young defenders, including k9, Henley, and Rumph.

KVN ended up choosing which team he signed with--and when.

Lamar is playing very well and the Ravens are the best team in the AFC.

[captaind]

Brandon Staley and I have been waiting for a very long time,
for the concept of buulding a winning defense around Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack.

Tonight, Staley's vision came to fruition.

Keep it up.

Don’t get too excited. It was the Jets. Pretty much the worst offense in the NFL.

[Bolt4Knob]

Don’t get too excited. It was the Jets. Pretty much the worst offense in the NFL.

Really good game last night
Special Teams were good - Davis and Dicker were money. JK Scott was JK Scott

Defense 8 sacks, three turnovers

Offense - did enough good things but the OLine was bad and dropped passes. Herbert played smart

So a really solid game

But Sunday, Detroit, different offense, not as good of a defense. Another challenge

[richpjr]

Don’t get too excited. It was the Jets. Pretty much the worst offense in the NFL.

They do suck on O but at least we mopped the floor with them - much better than making a crappy QB look good.

[Riverwalk]

Really good game last night
Special Teams were good - Davis and Dicker were money. JK Scott was JK Scott

Defense 8 sacks, three turnovers

Offense - did enough good things but the OLine was bad and dropped passes. Herbert played smart

So a really solid game

But Sunday, Detroit, different offense, not as good of a defense. Another challenge

The defense and special teams were impressive but offense stunk. If not for 3 Jet turnovers, this game was a toss up.

There’s no question the OL stinks at both pass protect and run blocking. Absolute garbage.

What’s mystifying is why Herbert holds on to the ball so long and why Moore isn’t designing a quicker release offense with slants and targets to Ekeler out of the backfield.

I’d like to see Herbert take 3 step drops and immediate release like McDaniel designed for Tua to spare him from concussions.

[richpjr]

The defense and special teams were impressive but offense stunk. If not for 3 Jet turnovers, this game was a toss up.

There’s no question the OL stinks at both pass protect and run blocking. Absolute garbage.

What’s mystifying is why Herbert holds on to the ball so long and why Moore isn’t designing a quicker release offense with slants and targets to Ekeler out of the backfield.

I’d like to see Herbert take 3 step drops and immediate release like McDaniel designed for Tua to spare him from concussions.

It is not a mystery to me - no receiver on the entire roster has shown any ability to get quick separation other than Allen so there is nobody to throw to.